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Forums - Sales - Once again PS3/X360 gap is less then 2 million

thehusbo said:
All fanboyism aside, people are talking nonsense if they think halo and call of duty won't be system sellers. Halo has proven to be a system seller anumber of times in the past and a limited edition console WILL boost sales quite substantially as most limited edition consoles tend to do. I also think the Xbox will have a price cut and assuming ps3 has no price cut or new model this holiday season, Xbox will sell more (in November/December).

If ps3 wants to match Xbox it has to have a new slim released with a low hardrive, low price model comparable to the 4gb Xbox aswell as bigger hardrive models. Playstation all stars and wonder book are wild cards here I think. With sonys track record of poor advertising most people assume these won't do well, but if marketed correctly, with bundles and good support I think these can be big. Littlebigplanet could also do well if marketed well to the casuals. An Assasins creed 3 bundle should do well too.

If these situations take place for both consoles I can honestly see it being equal. But, no new model ps3 and no ps3 price cut and I think Xbox will win the holidays.

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We need a stat that shows how many of the Xbox 360 sales were repurchases because of Red Ring of Death.
I bet it's easily more than 2 million at this point.
Therefore with worldwide totals PS3 is likely in the lead by a large margin, perhaps 1-2 million.

No question X360 still leads in the U.S. though.



CGI-Quality said:
yo_john117 said:

BTW where is this PS3 slim thing coming from? I hear a lot of people talking about it but I haven't seen any rumors for it yet.

Rumor: pictures of Super-Slim PS3 spotted in the wild - GAMER.BLORGE

Thanks! I hope this is true cause it looks great! (and I would be able to afford one if they can get it down to $150ish level)



Halo4 and CoD will move systems that's pretty clear, but to the amount that it's significant enough that it completely turns around the sales for it then no.

I'm just curious what do you guys think the increase will be the week these games release, I'm gonna go and find out what the numbers say for when a Cod game or Halo game releases how much systems it actually moved. Gimme a couple hours though I can't do it now.



I think they can reach the 1.5mil gap by the end of the year



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CGI-Quality said:
yo_john117 said:
CGI-Quality said:
yo_john117 said:

BTW where is this PS3 slim thing coming from? I hear a lot of people talking about it but I haven't seen any rumors for it yet.

Rumor: pictures of Super-Slim PS3 spotted in the wild - GAMER.BLORGE

Thanks! I hope this is true cause it looks great! (and I would be able to afford one if they can get it down to $150ish level)

I'm not 100% sure how I feel about that model. From some angles, it looks unique and futuristic, but from others, it's fugly. I still like the look of the current models the best, but I also didn't like those models before I got to really see them either (the leaked photos made it looked worse than when it launched).

Yeah leaked photos usually make products look worse than they really are. I personally think it looks very good. Granted it's still pretty close to the other slim design (which I also like)

Either way a new slim model would be a smart move by Sony.



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People still think Sony will close the gap... Gap is 3.3m and by this year ends will be >4m. Shipments ofc.



This is surely going to he an interesting holiday. I think the PS3 & 360 gap will decrease even more by the end of the year, but not by much.

The PS3's biggest thing going this year is of course the remodeling. If the Xbox 360's remodel and the PS3's previous remodel serve as good indicators of the future, then this new pS3 Slim should be extremely powerful. This remodel will be big for Sony regardless of if there is a price cut or not. I'm really not sure if Sony will decide to cut the price this year. The Slim alone will do wonders for Sony because of more hardware sold AND cheaper costs for each unit so Sony could decide not to cut the price and reap hefty profits for the next year or so. Or Sony may think its better to lower the price if they see the Wii U and potential Xbox cuts as threats to their own sales. They may decide its best to cut the price to stay competitive during the holiday.

- Also, is the Slim really a lot cheaper than the current model? I've been hearing a lot of people saying the Slim costs considerably less to manufacture, but I haven't seen any evidence. Can anyone clarify this? This will definitely be a factor in Sony decision on cutting the price or not.

I personally don't think Sony needs to price cut this year, and if I were in charge of deciding price cuts, I probably wouldn't. Like I mentioned before, consumers will buy remodels in large masses even without a price cut. Sony could use the money, and it could set the PS3 up for a much more dramatic cut in 2013. However, if Sony truly needs a price cut to stay competitive, then I think they should drop to $229 (probably allowing them to drop to $179 next year). Now, $229 is not that far from the current price, however I think even the smallest of a price cut coupled with the remodel will help instill the 'fresh' look this year. The PS3 will already appear fresh with the remodel and I think simply having the label 'price cut' attached to it will be a big marketing asset that Sony could take advantage of.

The X360 typically has better holiday sales than the PS3 during this time. And I think this will be the year when Microsoft finally decides to officially lower the Xbox 360 price and possibly Kinect's price too. The PS3 Slim and the Wii U will definitely have a fair amount of buzz, so Microsoft may decide it necessary to cut X360's price this year to stay competitive. But, its not like Microsoft will be hurt by this. I'm sure there's room for a considerable price cut that would still leave Microsoft with some hefty profit with every unit of hardware sold. If Microsoft does not drop the X360's price or Kinect's price, then I will definitely be surprised.

The X360 also will have Halo 4 and CoD bundles that typically move a lot of hardware. These will definitely be a factor by a few hundred thousand units so they are definitely worth mentioning. From what we've seen with past Halos and Cods, people like Special Edition consoles. The Special Edition consoles coupled with a price cut will definitely give the X360 a pretty good holiday, I think. A Kinect price cut will do wonders also.

I'm thinking that both the PS3 and the 360 have things going for it. The PS3 will have the remodel. The 360 will more than likely have a price cut. The 360 of course has a big advantage in the software department imo. (I don't think Battle Royale or LBP Karting will be big sellers. I hope I'm wrong though). Though, the PS3 could also have a price cut to counter whatever advantage the X360 appears to have. There's a lot of unknowns and a lot of factors difficult to gauge at this point. But if I had to make a prediction, I would say the PS3 will edge out the X360 small margin (~400k) due to the Slim and a potential price cut.



Carl2291 said:
DirtyP2002 said:
If Sony really cuts the price again, even though SCE lost 1.2 billion and the whole company 6 billion last year, I will just laugh. I mean it doesn't matter to anyboydy who sold 66.7 and who sold 66.8 million. 3rd paty support will be a given this late into the generation.

Sony NEEDS the money. Why not redesign the console without a picecut like MS did in 2010 and start to actually make some money? What is wrong with Sony that they are willing to lose soooo much money (and they are already in a not-healthy position) just to get to 2nd place?

It is just against every rational thought.



The PS3 all together has been a giant fuck up on Sony's part.

Id imagine theyll be profiting quite a bit with the new model. Its tiny and looks fairly cheap tbh. With a 16GB model they really cant keep prices the same. It has to be introduced at a low price point. With that, you just can't keep the other models way higher like they already are.

I agree with you.

The point I don't get is the 16 GB model. Who wanted one of those? It is obvious Sony offers less with this model so they basically forced themselves to reduce the entry price. If the 160GB HDD is the only difference between these models, I don't get the point at all. How much is a 160 GB HDD for Sony these days? $20? $40? So they save $40 for this model and offer the console for $70 - $100 less. (from $249 --> $149 / $179)

Maybe you are right and Sony is like: "Okay, we fucked up with the PS3, now let's see if we can at least make the best out of it for the PS4." But even that would be stupid IMO. I mean you are looking at a 500 Million USD - 750 Million USD investment with this price cut. I just can't believe such a company is blinded by their ego in such a crucial fincial situation.



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