It worrys we how old this guy Is and he's acting like a fanboyish kid, all the Nintendo fans are going to buy it plus the people who have to have everything thats new and a few casuals, even some Sony/Microsoft gamers will buy it as a second console, it will do fine.

You want a penis-avatar, if you lose? I don't think I like this idea.

Anyways, no risc, no fun. You say you assume $299 or less. 299 €/$ is pretty much in the midst of what is likely, also possible is 320 or 350. I think it is fair to say, the bet is off, if the price is above 350 €/$ or below 250 €/$.

Nintendo launches this time often in all three regions at the same time. But as the launch is likely near to the holidays, a slight later release would mean, that it misses one region with christmas-sales. But I on the other hand take the risk, that Sony and MS don't release their next-gen offerings in 2013. That would bring the Wii-U a second holiday of sales, I think that makes reaching the milestone easy. I think the risks are well balanced between us.

So, if you want to stay to your claim, we can bet, if the Wii-U will have reached 15M worldwide sales according to VGChartz, as the next-gen console of Sony or Microsoft is released. If the price is above 350 €/$ or below 250 €/$ in US or Europe, the bet is off. We make a thread about the result, and the loser has to link to this thread with a statement like 'xxx was right' in his sig for say 3 months. That is better than ... a penis-avatar. What do you say?

I love Nintendo doom threads, they make me laugh :D

To answer your question; no and maybe...but no (as NintendoLand will likely hit 20+ mil)

Piro on a bender?

No, the extra screen will not sell the Wii-U. It is GAMES that will sell the hardware, as has always been the case. Hell, even the once doomed PSP caught fire in Japan simply from the phenomenon that is Monster Hunter. All it takes for the Wii U is one Monster Hunter type success to take off. And if we look at the lineup, there is already much potential for that. NSMB U will do wonders for the console's sales right off that bat, though it probably won't be as sucessful as its predecessors. But then you also have Wii Fit, Sing, and Just Dance that are likely to bring in major sales as well. At the same time though, I will say the Wii U needs its own brand new successful IP, as relying on old established ones is not going to cut it forever.

You're listening to the gaming media too much in regards to the importance of the hardware. The horsepower will mean nothing. The Wii U gamepad screen means nothing, besides perhaps acting as a bit of a deal sweetener for cross-platform third party games, which will allow them to be a little more unique on Nintendo's console. It will be the games that determines whether the Wii U sells 20 million or 200 million, or (more than likely) somewhere in between. Until we have seen the performance and quality of these new games, we just don't know.

Was it really, because ive yet to play or see a game on Wii that looks better than some of the best looking games on the original xbox(Halo2, SW, etc)

1, Sony and MS have not revealed a new console

2, Ninty supporters have gone and spread doom in the other forums, they did it wiht that MS glass and when Kinect and Move were announced, to pretend otherwise is just being purposely ignorant

I tell you what I would be willing to do..

I'd be willing to bet the Wii U doesn't surpass N64 type numbers.

Basically, I think the Wii U will fall somewhere between the Gamecube and an N64......basically.

THIS, i would love to hear his reasons on why 720 will win, especially since it has such an abysmal presence in Japan, without that country they will never win, unless they have something real cool. the moneyhatting of the JRPGS at the start of the gen didnt work and they dont give a damn about Kinect over there, i dont know what else they can do.

I actually don't care if the Wii U only sells one unit, as long as this one unit is mine :P. The launch window line up alone has like 12 games I want so even if this thing bombs and only those games release I will be fine.