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Shinobi-san on 09 June 2012
VetteDude said:
Shinobi-san said:
VetteDude said:
Shinobi-san said:

While i can appreciate the step up in graphical fidelity that demos such as the UE4, squere enix demo, and watch dogs demo show...i also believe that it is becoming increasingly harder to distinguish the difference between current gen graphics and next gen graphics.

Most people can see the major difference between digimon on PS1 compared to shadow of the collosus on PS2 compared to U2 on PS3. But the amount of people that can distinguish the difference between the new tech shown at E3 to say U2, U3 etc. is much less.

And as we continue to advance in graphical fidelity...less people will notice the difference. Not to mention that computing power in its current form will slow down tremendously in the future.

Heres the important part imo: Its not that next gen will show inferior gains to the current gen compared to what we've seen in the past, but it will appear that way to the average joe playing games.


Consoles have caught up to screen tech. TV's and monitors have pitifully low pixel density. Most high end phones ship with 720p screens now, and thats 5" max. The Galaxy Note 2 is rumored to have a 5.5" 1080p screen. 4K TV is not far off, and next gen consoles better have some horsepower. Current high-end desktop GPU's even struggle. VRAM bandwidth is a little too low, and we need more texture units. But the Wii U will fall vastly behind if 4K comes out on schedule.

Dude...people dont even have HD tv's.....4k tv's are far off.

Dude. People can buy a 720p TV for $300 if they want, if people don't have HD, that's their choice.

And they are not far off. http://www.mitsubishi-megaview.com/products/model56P-QF65LCU.html

2160p has 4 times the pixel count of 1080p. Crysis 2 at 900p (my monitor resolution) on Medium with DX11 on uses the full 1GB of VRAM my GPU has. Sony, being a TV manufacturer, should be looking to support 4K (like they did 3D on PS3). I also hope Microsoft has enough foresight to be able to pump some serious pixels. Because Nintendo let us down. Can't even do 1080p *shakes head*


Didnt mean that you cant go out and buy you a 4k tv....thats not what i meant by far off.



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killerzX on 09 June 2012
lilbroex said:

Do you know what this game is and what system its running on? The tpe of detail you are focusing on is nothing new or technically impressive. It is easily achieved.

aid:

just stop....as example even if the face would look the same, the rest is just a joke compared to the luminous engine demo.

 

€dit: too late

edit 2: exactly what pezus said did i try to tell people like aldro all the time. they are always only talking about faces as if the whole game would be only "looking at a face"

 

If he showed more than faces so would I. I've yet to see anything that would be difficult to achieve on the 360 or PS3 aside from the hair.

it looks like a wii game



Nsanity on 09 June 2012



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lilbroex on 09 June 2012
killerzX said:
lilbroex said:

Do you know what this game is and what system its running on? The tpe of detail you are focusing on is nothing new or technically impressive. It is easily achieved.

aid:

just stop....as example even if the face would look the same, the rest is just a joke compared to the luminous engine demo.

 

€dit: too late

edit 2: exactly what pezus said did i try to tell people like aldro all the time. they are always only talking about faces as if the whole game would be only "looking at a face"

 

If he showed more than faces so would I. I've yet to see anything that would be difficult to achieve on the 360 or PS3 aside from the hair.

it looks like a wii game

It certainly does, but I wasn't asking you.



crissindahouse on 09 June 2012

just imagine how horrible this wii game has to look if you enlarge it to normal size



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Play4Fun on 09 June 2012
pezus said:
Shinobi-san said:

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pezus said:
NintendoPie said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

The world in Pikmin isn't very detailed lol

Compare one character model in pikmin to Nathan Drake, or any human NPC for that matter. Much more detail in the humans. And I think it's a little bit of stretch to say Pikmin 3 looks as good as Uncharted 3. 


Lol. Okay APM, there's no convinsing you. I have now learned that. 

But, Do you seriously think I'm that stupid to think that a Pikmin looks As detailed as Nathan Drake? No! Of course not. Seriously, we think differently, that's obvious. No need to act like something I said means nothing, though. It's an opinion. 

Graphics technology is not opinion though. Did you see the Unreal 4 tech demo?

Graphics technology might not be opinion....but how someone perceives it is. Look at some of the guys in this thread...i dont blame them for not seeing the "UBER AWESOME" graphics in all this next gen stuff when shit already looks good.

I don't blame them, I blame their eyes. Get them checked boyz!

Peopleare allowed their opinions.



crissindahouse on 09 June 2012
pezus said:
Wait, what was the point of that Wii screenshot? It looks bad


easily to achieve details. i see no details but they were easily achieved in the game. just look at the brown rectangle on the ground with the black spot on it.



VetteDude on 09 June 2012

Since we are posting screenies!

RIGHT CLICK>VIEW IMAGE




Guess which one is PS3 and which is PC? Sorry for the lower res on the PS3 one, but that's the highest consoles can go. There is much room for improvement on consoles.



Play4Fun on 09 June 2012
VetteDude said:

Since we are posting screenies!

RIGHT CLICK>VIEW IMAGE




Guess which one is PS3 and which is PC? Sorry for the lower res on the PS3 one, but that's the highest consoles can go. There is much room for improvement on consoles.

The one that says Press F is PC. =p



VetteDude on 09 June 2012

Did you zoom in? Look at the bricks, looks at the gun, look at the ammo crates, look at the bush. Then look at the water, gun, and foliage on the PS3.