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I have to say that Windows 8 is indeed faster than Windows 7 - but I do not like the new Startscreen and the hot-corners - I think the startmenu was not so... hummm... clutering all over my desktop, I haven't been able to test any apps because it looks like my PC does not like them at all (closes all of them upon oppening) - also I do like my Desktop as center of activity and in the consumer preview the startscreen offers to little customizeability. The hot corners are just tedious with the mouse - also they should put all of the open windows either in the old taskbar or the new hot-corner appbar on the left - I do not know the official name - it just sucks to have to search your stuff on two different bars (tough the appbar was useless to me anyway :D) - ribbon has gotten a lot better since its early beginnings but still is not as good for advanced users (IMO) - I have to say I really like the overall idea of windows 8 but it all feals to touchy if you are using non-touch human interface devices :D

EDIT: Start-Up time is near zero - and thats something I somehow dislike - I want to make me my coffee while my computer boots! lol



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Rainbird said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
im a pro mac guy in every way so this means nothing to me but i can't help but be confused at Windows 8..

its a tablet interface.. on a screen you can't touch. very very weird
Andrespetmonkey said:
This is definitely aimed at tablets and smartphones, so I might just wait until I the next Windows OS to buy a new PC.

Microsoft are bringing touch to Windows indeed, but I've migrated completely to using Windows 8 (Consumer Preview) on my laptop, and it's definitely better than Windows 7 in my opinion. It's both faster because it requires less resources, but the new start screen is a big improvement over the old start menu, and there's a bunch of other upgrades (large and small) that make Windows 8 really nice to use on a regular non-touch PC.

Really? From what I have seen the Metro UI is a bit of a pain with mouse and keyboard, even if it looks very nice

The thing is, I basically just use my PC for Skype, Chrome, Steam and the occasional other programme, but 90% of use is Chrome + Steam. This means that I could probably just stick those tiles on the homescreen?

My problem is that I can't create a large enough partition on my HDD, and my attempts to run it virtually have failed, so I can't even try it. I am, however, building a new PC in the summer, so mabye there will be space to try it on there, but I have no interest in really using touch for my PC, I don't see why we want gestures to replace button presses....



Mr Khan said:
Rainbird said:

Microsoft are bringing touch to Windows indeed, but I've migrated completely to using Windows 8 (Consumer Preview) on my laptop, and it's definitely better than Windows 7 in my opinion. It's both faster because it requires less resources, but the new start screen is a big improvement over the old start menu, and there's a bunch of other upgrades (large and small) that make Windows 8 really nice to use on a regular non-touch PC.

I would hear more of this, for i am purchasing a new laptop in the next couple of months with money that i am hopefully getting for graduation (otherwise i'm not going to have money for things for some time, and this old laptop is getting fairly abused) and may very well end up with Windows 8 depending on release date...

Windows 8 will probably be out in the fall at some point, so you might have to hold out for a Windows 8 PC. I would personally do just that (my own laptop is wearing on me), especially because I want a laptop with a touch screen (ideally a laptop that can also be used as a tablet or vice versa. Seeing as W8 lets me have two devices in one and that's exactly what I've been looking for).

I still find W8 to be quite good without touch though. W8 does however demand that you change your mindset about how a PC should behave, and your liking of W8 will probably come down to how willing you are to adapt to new ways of interacting with your PC. So anyway, what's better about W8 than W7?

Performance is improved, though my laptop is nowhere near top of the line, the difference is likely less noticable on a powerhouse laptop (except in startup time, which is leaps and bounds ahead in W8). If you're going for a laptop with a focus on long battery time though, W8 will most likely provide smoother use.

The desktop is much the same as it was in W7, with the biggest change being in Explorer and the task manager. Explorer now has ribbons, like Office, which I personally think are better for the experience, but your mileage may vary of course. And the task manager has recieved a major overhaul, making it completely modern and much more user friendly than it was before. File management has also gotten some spit and polish, making moving files around much nicer to deal with. And all your settings are saved online, so they carry over to each W8 PC you log into.

In short, you still have the desktop you're used to, and it's been given a good portion of spit and polish, but nothing big has really happened with it. The really big change is of course the fact that the start menu is now gone, replaced by the new start screen. I personally think the start screen is a big improvement over the old menu. It's easier to find your target (rather than meticulously going through those small icons for the applications that aren't shown first) and it's easier to hit the targets. Compared to the task bar on the desktop, it's less of an upgrade, but still quite nice to use. 

Live tiles also help make the start screen better than the menu imo, as there's now a bunch of information available without needing to keep a bunch of apps open. My Mail-tile shows if I have unread mail, who it's from and a small snippet from said mail, my People-app shows what's going on on Facebook, etc. All of that is available at a tap of the Windows-key.

The biggest improvement is for searching though. Searching for applications was nice to have in W7, but it's been much improved in W8. It's faster and shows more results, to the point where the fastest way to open applications (desktop or not) is often to tap the Windows-key, start typing out your search and hitting enter to launch.

Everything I've described works well with mouse and keyboard, with keyboard users getting a nice treat from Microsoft in the form of a lot of keyboard shortcuts to make life easier. Mouse users don't see much of an upgrade overall, but W8 is by no means worse than W7 for mouse users either. The exception to this is touchpads though, as they (currently) aren't as easy to use as the mouse is. I suspect this will be remedied through special touchpad interaction, sort of like what you get on Macbooks. That or just have a touch screen, in which case, problem solved!

Whew... That was all for the classic Windows experience, so there's a whole chapter left for the new apps and how they work. Thankfully I haven't used them much (most are still unfinished with too many rough edges), so I can't write much about them. Here's a short rundown though:

- The new apps are full screen, but two apps can be snapped alongside eachother for multitasking.

- Apps that are in the background are frozen so they don't use resources, and are only woken up from time to time to update their live tiles for example, which saves battery life.

- The desktop itself is an app, and won't use resources if itsn't opened.

- Apps need to be downloaded from the app store, where they have gone through testing to make sure they are not malicious.

- Apps can use the new charms to keep things organized. For example, the Settings charm is used to access settings, no matter what app you're using, keeping things consistent.

@ Munkeh111 

Read the above. You can read the part about the start screen if tl;dr.



Can't wait for the tablet!
That's where it's going to shine! And I really really hope my phone supports it too!



Oh, and Microsoft deserve kudos for making W8 a friendly system. It may not seem like much, but Microsoft have polished the presentation to the point where everything feels a little alive and welcoming. Case in point, the new blue screen of death:



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I've only heard very bad things about Windows 8 so far.



Rainbird said:

Oh, and Microsoft deserve kudos for making W8 a friendly system. It may not seem like much, but Microsoft have polished the presentation to the point where everything feels a little alive and welcoming. Case in point, the new blue screen of death:

I love those things... when you don't have any music it says:

It's pretty lonely here :(

I got all

Sorry, I'll get some music for you



Wagram said:
I've only heard very bad things about Windows 8 so far.

Might I direct you to my post above describing why W8 works quite well as a PC OS then?



VicViper said:

I love those things... when you don't have any music it says:

It's pretty lonely here :(

I got all

Sorry, I'll get some music for you

Yeah, Microsoft really did a good job of making things come to life. ^_^



Rainbird said:

Oh, and Microsoft deserve kudos for making W8 a friendly system. It may not seem like much, but Microsoft have polished the presentation to the point where everything feels a little alive and welcoming. Case in point, the new blue screen of death:


I'd liek to point out that that's actually a really fcuking shitty change. I havebeen able to troubleshoot blue screens, at least once, by what the actual error is. Now it's just dumbed down and completely fucking useless, even more so than before.



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