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SnakeDrake said:
killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
Go Israel!!!

Because if the government came in and took your land to give to some other people, then criss-crossed your local town with roads that you weren't allowed to go through without extensive background-checking, i'm sure you'd be thrilled.


. they are the only civilized country in that whole region, all other countries and fictional nations (Palestain) have no interest in peace they want to kill and destroy everyone unless they submit to allah. they will not stop until they have established a global caliphate

Your right evreyone in that region men,women or child is a terrorist that wants to destroy the world and must be killed without tiral.

Thats sarcasm



 

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This really is a sad topic.

Just a few days ago, I read an article in an israeli newspaper that proves the long history of israeli governments secretly targeting the peace process:
The civil administration was forced to release certain maps, that prove that the israeli civil administration does not even consider giving up occupied palestinian land - quite the contrary, they already have very concrete plans of how to use remaining palestinian land.

"For years Israel’s Civil Administration has been covertly locating and mapping available land in the West Bank and naming the parcels after existing Jewish settlements, presumably with an eye toward expanding these communities."
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-defense-ministry-plan-earmarks-10-percent-of-west-bank-for-settlement-expansion-1.421589

And these plans for palestinian land can be dated back to at least before the Oslo Accords, so the problem is not only the current Netanyahu/Mr. "We won’t be moving people, we will be moving the borders" Lieberman government. It's been official policy for decades.

I just hope that israelian policy comes to mind before it's too late. And with "too late" I don't mean a ridiculous hypothetical iranian atomic bomb, I mean the inevitable and soon approaching time at which the USA will be losing their strategic interests in Israel, and thus its willingness to kiss the Israeli government's butt.

Israel often behaves like a hypocrite school bully that everyone secrely criticises, but hardly anyone is publically facing up to, mostly because everyone is afraid of the school bully's protective and very strong big brother. But what happens if that strong big brother moves away, or simply decides he doesn't want to defend all the stupid things his smaller brother does anymore?

At that time, we'll be able to see Israel's real friends, and there'll be a few surprises.



Yeah, that's pretty awful. It's why Palestinian leadership has been stupid from the get go in not agreeing with whatever they could get ASAP.

What the Palestinians should of said a while back was... "Yes the Palestine Papers are true. We'd still accept that deal today, and that's a deal every other country in the world thinks is unfair to us!"

Everything only moves further into Israel's favor as the days go on, and neither side is really serious about any kind of peace because neither side is really prepared for it. The Israeli politicians don't want peace, and the Palestinian people don't want peace.



Also, i feel like the US support of Israel is overstated. The US gives them a lot of support sure, but they'd be plenty fine to handle things on their own without it... and god forbid if they weren't. That's when things would get REALLY ugly in this situation. On both sides.



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killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
Go Israel!!!

Because if the government came in and took your land to give to some other people, then criss-crossed your local town with roads that you weren't allowed to go through without extensive background-checking, i'm sure you'd be thrilled.


. they are the only civilized country in that whole region, all other countries and fictional nations (Palestain) have no interest in peace they want to kill and destroy everyone unless they submit to allah. they will not stop until they have established a global caliphate

Wow, so much racist hate.



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killerzX said:

palestaine, but thats a made up country.


Palestine has the same legitimation as Israel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine



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This conflict is indeed a sad one and no good sign for the humanity in whole. I want two independent countries (Israel and Palestine) as the UN decided more than 60 years ago. I want them to live in peace together. But on both sides of this conflict are total murderous morons. The normal people in both countries are the ones that are suffering.



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Mnementh said:
killerzX said:

palestaine, but thats a made up country.


Palestine has the same legitimation as Israel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine


Not really.  I mean, Palestine rejected that.  It's like having two brothers fight over their fathers possessions, one of them agreeing to a legal deal, the other disagreeing, using other methods to get what he wants, but fails, ends up with less then he would of gotten then uses the past deal as a basis on what they should get.  (Despite having rejected it).

I don't agree that there is no legitamcy to a palestinian state, but there is less so then there is an Israeli state.  If there was a one or the other situation (which there isn't and it should never get to that) you'd have to go with Israel.

The "made up" country part though I think is probably a reference to the fact that there never was really a historic palestine.  The area pretty much always being a part of some other distant empire, except when being ruled by the jews.



killerzX said:
Mr Khan said:
killerzX said:
Go Israel!!!

Because if the government came in and took your land to give to some other people, then criss-crossed your local town with roads that you weren't allowed to go through without extensive background-checking, i'm sure you'd be thrilled.


. they are the only civilized country in that whole region, all other countries and fictional nations (Palestain) have no interest in peace they want to kill and destroy everyone unless they submit to allah. they will not stop until they have established a global caliphate


I am offensive and I find this Palestine.



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