baseless assumption unless you care to explain. mind you i know nothing about tech and processors and all that.

hi! i was just wondering, if these games in there infinite beauty can be done on PS3 in their same quality, why have they not been done yet?

Well mostly cos they are Sony IP's

Edit: There is also the issue of developers..MS doesnt have a very strong first party dev pool to work with. I mean the people that take the most advantage of the 360 is EPIC games and they are third party. Who knows what naughty dog or santa monica games can do on the 360....my guess? They could produce something very similar.

Wishful thinking is wishful.

Not knocking on you, but in general, why does everyone say that about MS?  They've been making graphic APIs since before nVidia bought 3dfx, hell they're on their 11th iteration, about to move onto their 12th.  If anyone knows how to make a graphic API it's Microsoft, not Naughty Dog, not Guerrila Games, not Santa Monica.  Hell video cards are built around their APIs.  If the 360's games, exclusive or not, are a few notches down from what Sony's internal devs have done, that's because the 360s hardware is close to its peak (No hardware will probably ever be at their peaks any more, way to many registers, hardware functions, and programmability).  On the flip side the PS3 is also near its peak, which is why you only see Uncharted, God of War and Killzone ahead of the curve.  Though ultimately those games don't look next gen better, they just look a few years ahead better.

At the end of the day the its just an API. Give two devs the same API and there will be different results.

So no matter how good their API is, the final result will be dependant on the developer. So many other issues come in to play when you looking at the developer though. What kind of support is MS giving them? what are their time constraints? what is their budget? and so on and so on.

And many people would say Geears 3 is on the same level as the best of Sony's offerings.

I just cant see how any1 can say theres a tangible difference in power between PS3 and 360...maybe 5/6 years ago. But certainly not now.

Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2, and generations were downgraded visually from the first Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm which was a PS3 exclusive, why would the sequels look worse than the original? Oh wait... they were multiplatform...

Also what's the point of posting gifs of crackdown, when STARHAWK looks significantly ahead of crackdown visually, and has maps that are comparable to warhawk size maps, some times even larger...

I disagree.

The difference in power isn't very significant, but it's still there.

SONY giving lots of money to their 1st party developers isn't an excuse as to why PS3 exclusives look better either. A game like Gears of War 3 gets just as much time and attention as a game like Uncharted 3. And if the PS3 is harder to code for, shouldn't it be the PS3 games that have the potential to look better?

Care to elaborate Brendude :)