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Shinobi-san said:
brendude13 said:

I disagree.


Care to elaborate Brendude :)

Editeded.



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brendude13 said:
Shinobi-san said:

Sorry to break it to you but these games can be done on the 360 and look almost exactly the same :)

There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360 when it comes to cpu/gpu processing power. This is not my opinion it is a fact. So dont reply.

I disagree.

The difference in power isn't very significant, but it's still there.

SONY giving lots of money to their 1st party developers isn't an excuse as to why PS3 exclusives look better either. A game like Gears of War 3 gets just as much time and attention as a game like Uncharted 3. And if the PS3 is harder to code for, shouldn't it be the PS3 games that have the potential to look better?

Thats what i said though "There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360".

Quite a few people like gears 3 over U3 in terms of visuals...based on my experiences xbox fans will prefer gears, and PS fans will prefer U3 (like me ). But lets be honest both the games are beautiful...and technically speaking theres not much of a difference between the games.

And also the thing about being hard to code for...all that means is that its hard to code for (to my knowledge).

I think some people took my intial comment the wrong way though...when i made the comment about the perception of the PS3 power here in my country. People here think that there is a significant gap. Which both technically and realistically speaking is rubbish.



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VGKing said:
ZaneWane said:
o_O.Q said:
PearlJam said:

Blue-Ray is only really an advantage with Video and Audio. Models don't take up much room and even then the PS3 can't crunch enough polys for this to matter. High quality textures can take up A LOT of space, but the PS3 doesn't have the RAM or processing power to do anything with very high quality textures either.

And why are people always using Naughty Dog/ Uncharted as an example? Those are some of the most linear, heavily scripted games of the generation. Only On-rail shooters and games like Heavy Rain are worse.

I would love for Naughty Dog to put something out that is a little more dynamic, something that isn't so controlled. All these PS3 exlcusives that people hype up are the same thing. Very linear, heavily scripted games that only place you in very controlled situations.


name me an xbox exclusive that gives more freedom to the player than infamous...

i find it ironic how you use that broad generalisation when at this point in time most recent xbox exclusives are toning down player control massively to support kinect controls

crackdown 2


Wow that game looks amazing. How come I've never heard of it?

Because in reality it doesn't look even half that good and is simply a slightly above average game. Nothing to really write home about.



Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
This was common knowledge if you took the time to research it properly back then....but yeah most people didnt bother.

Some people in my country still believe the PS3 is considerably more powerfull than a 360 LOL!

...It is. It's just more difficult to program for.


It can be argued both ways. From a pure theoretical point of view..yes ps3 is more powerfull. But realistically it isnt, and it definately isnt when it comes to game development. The only technical advantage the ps3 has is blueray.

Realistically, it is. There are games out there that take full advantage of the Cell.


Sorry to break it to you but these games can be done on the 360 and look almost exactly the same :)

There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360 when it comes to cpu/gpu processing power. This is not my opinion it is a fact. So dont reply.


PS3 architecture is almost completely differerent than that of the Xbox 360. These 1st party PS3 games are to take advantage of PS3s strenghts and a port to XBox 360 would just not be possible. If it is possible, it would way too much time and it wouldn't be worth the time and money.



Shinobi-san said:
brendude13 said:
Shinobi-san said:

Sorry to break it to you but these games can be done on the 360 and look almost exactly the same :)

There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360 when it comes to cpu/gpu processing power. This is not my opinion it is a fact. So dont reply.

I disagree.

The difference in power isn't very significant, but it's still there.

SONY giving lots of money to their 1st party developers isn't an excuse as to why PS3 exclusives look better either. A game like Gears of War 3 gets just as much time and attention as a game like Uncharted 3. And if the PS3 is harder to code for, shouldn't it be the PS3 games that have the potential to look better?

Thats what i said though "There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360".

Quite a few people like gears 3 over U3 in terms of visuals...based on my experiences xbox fans will prefer gears, and PS fans will prefer U3 (like me ). But lets be honest both the games are beautiful...and technically speaking theres not much of a difference between the games.

And also the thing about being hard to code for...all that means is that its hard to code for (to my knowledge).

I think some people took my intial comment the wrong way though...when i made the comment about the perception of the PS3 power here in my country. People here think that there is a significant gap. Which both technically and realistically speaking is rubbish.


There is a significant gap though. You just dont see it that often. If all devs were as talented as Naughty Dog then we'd have more multplats near the level of Uncharted or Gears. Oh and most multiplat games are made on 360 and ported to PS3. Why do you think that is? It's because if its made on PS3 then ported to 360 there is a risk of doing TOO much with the PS3 therefore making a lot of sacrifices for the 360 version.

Devs take the easy way out by making for 360 and porting to the harder platform(PS3).



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Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
This was common knowledge if you took the time to research it properly back then....but yeah most people didnt bother.

Some people in my country still believe the PS3 is considerably more powerfull than a 360 LOL!

...It is. It's just more difficult to program for.


It can be argued both ways. From a pure theoretical point of view..yes ps3 is more powerfull. But realistically it isnt, and it definately isnt when it comes to game development. The only technical advantage the ps3 has is blueray.

Realistically, it is. There are games out there that take full advantage of the Cell.

 


Sorry to break it to you but these games can be done on the 360 and look almost exactly the same :)

There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360 when it comes to cpu/gpu processing power. This is not my opinion it is a fact. So dont reply.

The difference in power is significant enough for a PS3 exclusive to have taken the most 'best console graphics' awards for 4 years in a row. 

Also regarding Gears 3 looking so similar to UC3 that it only matters which console you own, why did UC3 completely sweep the best graphics awards that year? I mean completely. 

This is not my opinion, this is fact. But do reply. 

;)



Sal.Paradise said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
This was common knowledge if you took the time to research it properly back then....but yeah most people didnt bother.

Some people in my country still believe the PS3 is considerably more powerfull than a 360 LOL!

...It is. It's just more difficult to program for.


It can be argued both ways. From a pure theoretical point of view..yes ps3 is more powerfull. But realistically it isnt, and it definately isnt when it comes to game development. The only technical advantage the ps3 has is blueray.

Realistically, it is. There are games out there that take full advantage of the Cell.

 


Sorry to break it to you but these games can be done on the 360 and look almost exactly the same :)

There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360 when it comes to cpu/gpu processing power. This is not my opinion it is a fact. So dont reply.

The difference in power is significant enough for a PS3 exclusive to have taken the most 'best console graphics' awards for 4 years in a row. 

Also regarding Gears 3 looking so similar to UC3 that it only matters which console you own, why did UC3 completely sweep the best graphics awards that year? I mean completely. 

This is not my opinion, this is fact. But do reply. 

;)

Except it is... just like the group of people or person who awarded the game the best looking.



Nsanity said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
This was common knowledge if you took the time to research it properly back then....but yeah most people didnt bother.

Some people in my country still believe the PS3 is considerably more powerfull than a 360 LOL!

...It is. It's just more difficult to program for.


It can be argued both ways. From a pure theoretical point of view..yes ps3 is more powerfull. But realistically it isnt, and it definately isnt when it comes to game development. The only technical advantage the ps3 has is blueray.

Realistically, it is. There are games out there that take full advantage of the Cell.

 


Sorry to break it to you but these games can be done on the 360 and look almost exactly the same :)

There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360 when it comes to cpu/gpu processing power. This is not my opinion it is a fact. So dont reply.

The difference in power is significant enough for a PS3 exclusive to have taken the most 'best console graphics' awards for 4 years in a row. 

Also regarding Gears 3 looking so similar to UC3 that it only matters which console you own, why did UC3 completely sweep the best graphics awards that year? I mean completely. 

This is not my opinion, this is fact. But do reply. 

;)

Except it is... just like the group of people or person who awarded the game the best looking.

Nope, the fact is that a PS3 exclusive has won the most 'best console graphics of the year' awards for 4 years in a row.

Of course, that's based on opinion, but collective opinions of professional critics that have played all the nominees across all platforms every year, not from just some schmuck like me on a random internet forum :)



Nsanity said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
This was common knowledge if you took the time to research it properly back then....but yeah most people didnt bother.

Some people in my country still believe the PS3 is considerably more powerfull than a 360 LOL!

...It is. It's just more difficult to program for.


It can be argued both ways. From a pure theoretical point of view..yes ps3 is more powerfull. But realistically it isnt, and it definately isnt when it comes to game development. The only technical advantage the ps3 has is blueray.

Realistically, it is. There are games out there that take full advantage of the Cell.

 


Sorry to break it to you but these games can be done on the 360 and look almost exactly the same :)

There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360 when it comes to cpu/gpu processing power. This is not my opinion it is a fact. So dont reply.

The difference in power is significant enough for a PS3 exclusive to have taken the most 'best console graphics' awards for 4 years in a row. 

Also regarding Gears 3 looking so similar to UC3 that it only matters which console you own, why did UC3 completely sweep the best graphics awards that year? I mean completely. 

This is not my opinion, this is fact. But do reply. 

;)

Except it is... just like the group of people or person who awarded the game the best looking.


When the majority of sites award Unchartd 3 with best graphics, it's not just an opinion, its fact.
If you disagree with the majority then that's just your opinion.



VGKing said:
Nsanity said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
VGKing said:
Shinobi-san said:
This was common knowledge if you took the time to research it properly back then....but yeah most people didnt bother.

Some people in my country still believe the PS3 is considerably more powerfull than a 360 LOL!

...It is. It's just more difficult to program for.


It can be argued both ways. From a pure theoretical point of view..yes ps3 is more powerfull. But realistically it isnt, and it definately isnt when it comes to game development. The only technical advantage the ps3 has is blueray.

Realistically, it is. There are games out there that take full advantage of the Cell.

 


Sorry to break it to you but these games can be done on the 360 and look almost exactly the same :)

There is no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360 when it comes to cpu/gpu processing power. This is not my opinion it is a fact. So dont reply.

The difference in power is significant enough for a PS3 exclusive to have taken the most 'best console graphics' awards for 4 years in a row. 

Also regarding Gears 3 looking so similar to UC3 that it only matters which console you own, why did UC3 completely sweep the best graphics awards that year? I mean completely. 

This is not my opinion, this is fact. But do reply. 

;)

Except it is... just like the group of people or person who awarded the game the best looking.


When the majority of sites award Unchartd 3 with best graphics, it's not just an opinion, its fact.
If you disagree with the majority then that's just your opinion.

Im pretty sure its still an opinion.