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Murmurs of the next Xbox and PlayStation 4 have only surfaced in the past few months, but Nintendo's next contender has been bubbling away for quite a while.

The Wii U's baffling reveal at last year's E3 might have left most onlookers confused, but it gave one vital piece of info away: Nintendo isn't in a hurry.

When sales dip down from sky-high to the floor, it's easy to forget about the initial wave of money. And where other companies make substantial profits and plunge it straight back into R&D, Nintendo made colossal sums and saved it all up for a rainy day.

 

This isn't the only way that Nintendo's different, either. It's easy enough to make snap judgements, but the past decade has taught us that this isn't always wise. The Nintendo DS sounded like a disaster, and ended up setting the world on fire.

 

Rumours state that the Wii U will be less graphically powerful than both the Xbox 360 and the PS3, but we don't think this feels like any real cause for concern, for the three simple reasons listed below.

Hardware isn't everything

On paper, the Wii sounded like a joke. Using technical components that many defined as last-gen, it arrived into an industry obsessed with HD with a silly peripheral and a sleek white exterior. As it turned out, this was all it needed.

Hardcore gamers might have laughed at the tech-specs, but most people don't even know what that means. The Wii wasn't HD, but most didn't know that either. Nip back in time to 2006, and you'll remember the stupidity of the HD-ready generation. Pubs had whopping 60" tellies wired up to fuzzy TV cables, while Dixons showed off the fancy new tech with low-resolution nature DVDs. If you had a HDTV, you assumed everything was HD.

Technical knowledge has improved since then, but not enough to damage Nintendo's chances: The Wii U is HD, and that's enough. The Wii was the weakest console on the market, and still managed to annihilate the competition entirely.

It needs to be cheap

Nintendo could splash its fortunes on high-end tech in an effort to make the ultimate games machine, but who would that really benefit in the long-run? Sony's attempts to do so haven't been met with success lately, and the only reason it does so is because it has a different agenda: Sony is a technology company, whereas Nintendo is a company that uses tech to sell games.

Tech innovation is what gets people excited, but it's the software that really sells Nintendo consoles. People bought a Wii so they could play Wii Sports - but only because the price was right. Anyone with a disposable income bought one because they'd had a go on bowling at their friend's house. Add another hundred quid to the tag, and an impulse purchase would have been harder to reach.

 

 

Nintendo don't make the kind of hardware that people weigh up buying for months and months, they make silly and fun pieces of joy that people want to put in their living room immediately. Where serious gamers will weigh it up as a console, most people will treat the Wii U as a toy - it's not something they need, and unlike the other next-gen consoles, it won't replace anything else under the TV. It won't be a comprehensive media hub or a fancy-pants Blu-Ray player, but will be a lot of fun to play.

 

Choosing to fill it with cheaper hardware is the only option that Nintendo has available. The wireless tablet controller isn't cheap to produce, but it's vital that corners don't get cut here: If the Apple iPad makes Nintendo's attempts look too cheap, the Wii U could be in serious trouble. Keeping the production costs of the main hardware low is the only way Nintendo can keep the Wii U's price down. If they can't do that - they've got no place in the market.

It isn't a competition

Trying to catch up with Sony and Microsoft is irrelevant beyond belief at this point. Nintendo's road diverged a long time ago, and now it seems wiser to simply carry on ahead. Microsoft and Sony are both racing to cement their place in the living room, acting as the hub for all entertainment. High-end graphical capabilities are at the centre of what they aim to achieve, and they both manage to do that remarkably well.

Nintendo's consoles have a different approach: People buy Nintendo consoles so they can play Nintendo games. Strip away the shining veneer of graphics, and it's what's underneath that really matters. Some gaming experiences aren't possible without modern tech, but that doesn't mean that simple games can't be equally enjoyable.

 

The rise of the iPhone is a reminder of this.Angry Birds might not float your boat, but anyone who looks will find something they love. The rise of lo-fi gaming devices is a reminder that graphics aren't actually that important: Good art style and atmosphere always come first. Nintendo has always loved simple game design, so what's the point of investing millions in hyper-expensive next-gen graphics?

 

The Wii U's specifications shouldn't come as a surprise, and they don't provide a reason to start worrying either. Nintendo doesn't do things like anyone else, and because of that it doesn't have any clear competitors - the Wii sales figures alone are enough to prove that. For tech-obsessed fans it's a kick in the teeth, but Nintendo would be daft to change sides when it's winning.

Jimmy White wouldn't step into a boxing ring, so why should Nintendo?



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I love Nintendo and I love their games, and It wouldn't bother me so long as they put out new games, but if they're just going to put out the same zelda game but in HD this time it's pretty lame.



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Everyone cares.

IT'S A BIG DEAL.

(and there's no way in hell it's less powerful than PS3 - get your head on straight)



If you like Nintendo's first party titles, it being less powerful than PS3, but still being in HD shouldn't matter as much. The problem I see though, if PS4/NeXbox are going that power route, and say that it at least doubles the capabilities of the previous systems, production costs for games will increase, as well as the console itself. And for some reason, I think games are going to rise 10 dollars to 69.99 to cover the costs. But that's just me.

If Nintendo doesn't want to compete in an area it has limited expertise in, sounds smart to me. Go with your strengths and gradually build up the weaknesses. Nintendo is all about unique experiences now, whereas Xbox and PS3 are about graphic experiences. Right now, unless we all come into a good deal of money, I'm worried at how expensive next-gen will be, excluding Wii U. So chances are, Wii U will be the only system I get next gen.



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Personally, I really don't care about graphics in this case. The last generation will just repeat itself as I will buy the Wii U for Nintendo's first party titles only and Xbox 3 for some Xbox exclusives and third party titles.


If this move saves me some money (which it does) then that's just great.



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I think the wii crash and burned at the end of its lifecycle(for nintendo) because the games look so bad. But maybe price-point of the initial release was what made it so successful. However if it's going to have worse graphics it better be priced accordingly. Otherwise, it will be difficult for it to compete with the PS3/360.

Also having good gameplay is great, and all. But with that argument you're assuming that PS3 games don't. Having bad graphics even if it's stylized well is still a fault, no matter how you spin it.  The wii resolution was always bothersome to me. But this shouldn't be a problem unless.

The best argument I can think of for having something with worse graphics is that nintendo makes games for it. Well wouldn't it be great if nintendo made games that had better graphics?



ishiki said:

I think the wii crash and burned at the end of its lifecycle because the games look so bad.

I don't think taht it's going to be less powerful than a PS3. because that's just a bunch of negative publicity. 

Also having good gameplay is great, and all. But still having bad graphics even if it's stylized well is still a fault, no matter how you spin it. Wii games resolution is quite bothersome

However I play them on my computer, and they look pretty good. (Xenoblade, Last Story, Zelda)


If it wasn't for the poor resolution, Super Mario Galaxy would have looked even more beautiful than it already did. Even if they were to make the specs weaker than Xbox 360 I'm confident that Nintendo's games will still look breathtaking.



IT WON'T BE LESS POWERFUL THAN PS3!!!!!!!!!!



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
ishiki said:

I think the wii crash and burned at the end of its lifecycle because the games look so bad.

I don't think taht it's going to be less powerful than a PS3. because that's just a bunch of negative publicity. 

Also having good gameplay is great, and all. But still having bad graphics even if it's stylized well is still a fault, no matter how you spin it. Wii games resolution is quite bothersome

However I play them on my computer, and they look pretty good. (Xenoblade, Last Story, Zelda)


If it wasn't for the poor resolution Super Mario Galaxy would have looked even more beautiful than it already did. Even if they were to make the specs weaker than Xbox 360 I'm confident that Nintendo's games will still look breathtaking.

It does look pretty great 
http://h8.abload.de/img/mariowtz3.jpg 

But if it's weaker I can't imagine 3rd party support would be good which I'd think is something nintendo's trying to address with this console. 

I just don't see what they're generally aiming for with the wii-u. Because that tablet controller can't be cheap so I worry about the price-point, if they're making a console that ends up being more expensive than a PS3 or 360 but with worse graphics and a controller that may or not be a hit. That seems quite risky to me. It would be  a shame if ninty decided to go the sony route and anually lose money :P. Maybe I'll understand more when the official specs/price point comes out. But now I'm a bit perplexed.

But again, I thought the ipad was going to fail and I was completely wrong.



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