I think people are too quick to use labels: doomed being one of them.
Nobody likes to see a follow up to something do worse, especially if it was the follow up to NDS. But the NDS was one of a kind. Repeating it`s success is really hard if not impossible - even if Nintendo had made everything right.
What concerns me about the 3DS is: can Nintendo do Nintendogs/Brain Training/DS Lite/New Super Mario Bros./Mario Kart all over again?
In terms of hardware the "touch" novelty is gone and the 3D wasn`t the hit it was expected to be. But software is where Nintendo can win again. But, can it make those hits once more?

With Wii U, calling it doomed/coming too late makes no sense when you no nothing about it`s games, 1st party or not, online... overall, it`s strategy.
What i don`t get is that, for some reason, the price comparison between the price of today`s consoles and Wii U`s probable price suddenly becomes a huge deal. People forgot that this happens every generation? The newcomer is always more expensive then the previous console and it still manages to sell.
The way some people talk it´s like no console will make it because Xbox 360 and PS3 have a great library of games and are getting cheaper. You just can`t beat that!

Personally i think 3DS will at least sell the same as GBA. At least!
With Wii U, i think there´s a really good chance of that happening aswell.

Good to see some people use logical thinking as well.  Sad thing most people on this sie doesn't

That's a very different situation ...

The DS and PSP started off selling at a similar pace that was decent but not unusually strong. With the release of several "casual" games for the Nintendo DS, the DS' sales skyrocketed to setting a record pace while the PSP only saw a more modest increase in sales.

Whether you want to believe it or not, the PS-Vita selling far below this level is very troublesome. Sony may be able to make changes which impact sales, but a system that is selling at a pace that would indicate sales of 5 Million units per year is not comparable to a system that sold (on average) about 10 million units per year. Selling less than (about) 6 to 8 million units in your first year would be a very bad signal to third party publishers, and few companies can improve sales without strong third party support.

The picture is the Vita not having enough games, the "drastic move" is releasing games. Please don't exaggerate the details, otherwise when some big games are named, and sales pick up, people are still going to say it's not enough, because of this kind of rhetoric.

I have to agree with you, software sells hardware which is exactly what I said above.  Vita has no worthy titles yet but we also don't know what is being made for it.  I do not own a Vita but if it had games I wanted then I'd buy it.  Until then not a chance. I do own a 3DS because games like Mario, Zelda, Kid Icarus, and still hoping for my pokemanz lol And let's say the Vita doesn't sell as well as the PSP hypothetically.  That doesn't mean its  a failure. As long as they profit then its a success in the business world so no need to make it a competition.  

The PSP however in my opinion will not be hard to beat even if it doesnt sell as many consoles simply because the PSP didnt sell software.  Worse console I've ever owned ( My opinion so no need to get defensive, others liked it, i didnt)

Games will help but at the current price they will fail to provide much momentium for the PS-Vita ...

Essentially, most people expect to pay between $150 and $200 for a handheld gaming system with a game based on what they have paid for previous handheld systems. With inflation most people are probably willing to pay a little more but after they start having to pay $225 or $250 for a system and a game you're (probably) going to start to see a lot of resistance. When you have a system in the $300+ range for a system, game and memory card you're dealing with a very small portion of the market who are interested. 

While the price will eventually come down, I don't think Sony has the luxury of waiting it out. Unlike the PS3 the PS-Vita doesn't have similar platforms that already have substantial third party support with games that have such high development costs publishers are desperate to port the games to as many systems as possible to manage risk. Publishers will need the PS-Vita to stand on its own, and if they start projecting under 6 to 8 million units sold in its first year expect to see them start delaying and spacing out games in the second year; and if the sales continue to struggle to see fewer and fewer games planned for the third year and beyond.

There is still lots of time for Sony to turn things around, but if we don't see a price cut at E3 I would expect to see third party publishers publicly pressure Sony to drop the price.

OK, we're on the same page at least. I agree that games would help, but are likely not enough to be competitive enough.It can do well without a drop until, say, gamescom, or even simply just september as part of a ps3 price drop tie-in perhaps. But the problem is that "well" is likely going to be less than the psp sold.

Just, the thing is, a price drop, even one to 179$ (although I'm predicting 199$) is not what I would specifically call "drastic".  Furthermore, what is to stop Nintendo from simply dropping the price again, and repeating the cycle? Sure the price is a barrier, but competition is also a barrier in itself. Right now, I can buy a new 3ds on ebay for 130. Why? Because last week walmarts and other stores were selling them for around 119$.

This price drop thing is not a war that Sony wants to get into. Believe it.

I agree with you about the price point but sadly I don't think they're in the same situation as the 3DS.  3DS still profits with each console sold from what I understand.  The Vita on the other hand is already taking a loss on each console sold so they can't afford to cut much more.  The need to remove the 3G model altogether in my opinion.  Sony put the Vita in a bad position by going so powerful, specially for the handheld crowd.  Originally it was percieved as a good price next to the 3DS $250 price point.  

You definitely are right about Vita's pricepoint though.  The vita will eventually cutthe price but it's hard to say that it will be so soon like the 3DS because it's likely although not sure that they're already losing money on each console sold

Just because the 3DS cut their price early doesn't mean everything has to. Why is it all the sudden the "norm". I see a early holiday bundle, probably 3G since they are pushing that SKU. It will include a 4gb or an 8gb and a game, new or Uncharted or something. maybe some variety. If we're lucky 2 games, but not betting on it. I see the Vita selling 8 to 10 million this year without a price cut just based on current sales and holiday boosts. A system that sells almost 2 million in 2 months in not doomed, by a long shot.

This pretty much stems from the assumption that "what's good for the goose, is good for the gander" when this is not always the case. Yes, the early $70 price drop for the 3DS was huge (to the point where it probably should have pissed off more "ambassadors" than it did), but it really needs to be pointed out that the price drop was paired with a couple of major software releases for the holiday season. Chopping a chunk off the MSRP of the PSV won't have the same effect without being correctly timed with the release of more than one major software title, which as of yet would be an unannounced title (GoW PSV or GT PSV for example). 

Comparatively speaking, the 3G model is already pretty reasonably priced if one were to compare the only existing business model in the iPad. Apple charges an extra $130 for 3G/4G network access (extra hardware cost). $50 seems extremely reasonable by comparison and yet the majority of the vocal internet still sees the 3G addition as "worthless" or "overpriced."

Personally, I really don't see the point of the additional costs associated with the 3G model and AT&T's 3G network service. I'm speaking as a PSV 3G owner and current AT&T 3G network user. As an AT&T iPhone user I would really like to know why I should bother even renewing the 3G service when the only uses I can see are for Near updates and non-WiFi internet access (which I already have with the iPhone). I've used less than 20MB on the 250MB minimum plan after just short of 1 month. Is that worth $15? Hell no. 

It's still way too early to be making bold predictions on where the PSV platform is moving, although that won't stop a lot of individuals from doing so anyway, even if for nothing more than generating controversy and the hits. 

About the only thing I'd venture to suggest is that the major complaint non-consumers (those who pretend to be interested in the platform, but really aren't) have that should be addressed, could easily be met by simply including an 8GB memory card with every SKU and just drop the 4GB card altogether since they're almost useless. No price drop required. If SCE wants to include a decent DD game off the PSN Store as well; all the better.