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Sal.Paradise on 02 March 2012
RolStoppable said:
VGKing said:

The casual, misinformed market.

The 360 doens't have much variety. All those 3rd party games, also on PS3. Besides Kinect, there isn't much to differentiate the Xbox 360 from a PS3. 1st party exclusives are supposed to do that. This is where the Xbox 360 is lacking.

But hey the Xbox 360 keeps breaking records. If Microsoft keeps focusing on the casual,they don't need core exclusives.

As it is, Microsoft's Xbox 360 is leading the PS3 in the Western markets by a comfortable margin, so the burden to differentiate itself lies with Sony, because the default console for third party offerings is the 360.

Since Sony really hasn't been able to make any headway in five long years (their gains can all be attributed to Japan), it's Sony's first party that is lacking. The fact that Microsoft needs to do so little to stay ahead shows the strength (or rather lack thereof) of Sony's exclusives.


You're delusional. Heard of Europe? Yeh...



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Carl on 02 March 2012
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:

Makes one think about the real damage Microsoft is able to do to the PS brand this gen and possibly the next one... 

When talking about the damage done to the PS brand this generation and next, you have to look at the bigger picture.

Will Sony for a 2nd straight generation play all the wrong cards for 2 Years, letting the competition walk all over them? Will Microsoft play a stellar hand for a 2nd straight generation?

Despite all the damage done to the PS brand, despite all the screwups by Sony and the straight up blinders played by Microsoft, they're both currently neck and neck. The PS3 (And the 360) will still end up selling over 80(90?) Million units despite all the wrong moves, proving there is still a lot of power in that PS brand, despite a lot of that said power diminishing from the PS2 era.



                            

S.T.A.G.E. on 02 March 2012
RolStoppable said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
RolStoppable said:

As it is, Microsoft's Xbox 360 is leading the PS3 in the Western markets by a comfortable margin, so the burden to differentiate itself lies with Sony, because the default console for third party offerings is the 360.

Since Sony really hasn't been able to make any headway in five long years (their gains can all be attributed to Japan), it's Sony's first party that is lacking. The fact that Microsoft needs to do so little to stay ahead shows the strength (or rather lack thereof) of Sony's exclusives.

Just say they are leading Sony in America. Kinect is what is creating the phenomenon and the initial launch price of the 360. Price and games appeal the most to the American consumer. Kinect is what is keeping Microsoft going. Sony's exclusives have strength, its just that their marketing sucks. Gamers like games with variety to gain new experiences and every one of those games are quality, but popular? Thats another story.

Examples of Sony's variety, please.

What I gather from software sales on both the 360 and PS3 is that both consoles heavily cater to the 13-25 year old male crowd who don't seek variety, but rather only games that are appropriate for their age in their opinion.

Little Big Planet, Mod Nation Racers, Sly cooper, Motorstorm, God of War 3,Killzone 3, Singstar, Twisted Metal, Uncharted, Infamous, MLB The Show.

Those arent all of top franchises

Action Adventure

Racers

Combat Racers

Party gameshttp://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/reply.php?id=140755&quote=4451050

Platforming

Third person

Third person shooters

First Person Shooter

Sports

Regardless of the fact that the PS3 and 360 have a similar crowd, The PS3 has more available for active gamers. The majority of active gamers dont know about the majority of the PS3's hottest exclusives. I've spoken to people and it's quite sad on both the 360 and PS3 side of the tracks.



Carl on 02 March 2012
Sal.Paradise said:

You're delusional. Heard of Europe? Yeh...

Europe =/= Western Markets.

America + Europe = Western Markets.

360 "Western" Sales - ~54,000,000

PS3 "Western" Sales - ~44,500,000

The 360 has about a 10 Million lead over the PS3 in the West.



                            

Sal.Paradise on 02 March 2012
Carl2291 said:
Sal.Paradise said:

You're delusional. Heard of Europe? Yeh...

Europe =/= Western Markets.

America + Europe = Western Markets.

360 "Western" Sales - ~54,000,000

PS3 "Western" Sales - ~44,500,000

The 360 has about a 10 Million lead over the PS3 in the West.

Western Market =/= Western Markets

The plural 'Markets' implies that he said 'the 360 is leading by a comfortable margin in all Western Markets'

Which it is not, as Europe is a Western Market.

It may seem like semantics, but it's an important distinction. 



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 03 March 2012
Carl2291 said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:

Makes one think about the real damage Microsoft is able to do to the PS brand this gen and possibly the next one... 

When talking about the damage done to the PS brand this generation and next, you have to look at the bigger picture.

Will Sony for a 2nd straight generation play all the wrong cards for 2 Years, letting the competition walk all over them? Will Microsoft play a stellar hand for a 2nd straight generation?

Despite all the damage done to the PS brand, despite all the screwups by Sony and the straight up blinders played by Microsoft, they're both currently neck and neck. The PS3 (And the 360) will still end up selling over 80(90?) Million units despite all the wrong moves, proving there is still a lot of power in that PS brand, despite a lot of that said power diminishing from the PS2 era.

Yes, I agree with that. But Sony made the Ps brand a HECK of a lot smaller than it was 7 years ago. 

Companies have learnt the error of their ways this gen (RROD 360, Weak Early Line up, Expensive hardware Ps3). So next gen will be just as unpredictible as we started this gen. 

Like when Sony thought that they could just dump an expensive hardware and expect it to sell because the brand says PS. LMAO.



Yay!!!

S.T.A.G.E. on 03 March 2012
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Carl2291 said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:

Makes one think about the real damage Microsoft is able to do to the PS brand this gen and possibly the next one... 

When talking about the damage done to the PS brand this generation and next, you have to look at the bigger picture.

Will Sony for a 2nd straight generation play all the wrong cards for 2 Years, letting the competition walk all over them? Will Microsoft play a stellar hand for a 2nd straight generation?

Despite all the damage done to the PS brand, despite all the screwups by Sony and the straight up blinders played by Microsoft, they're both currently neck and neck. The PS3 (And the 360) will still end up selling over 80(90?) Million units despite all the wrong moves, proving there is still a lot of power in that PS brand, despite a lot of that said power diminishing from the PS2 era.

Yes, I agree with that. But Sony made the Ps brand a HECK of a lot smaller than it was 7 years ago. 

Companies have learnt the error of their ways this gen (RROD 360, Weak Early Line up, Expensive hardware Ps3). So next gen will be just as unpredictible as we started this gen. 

Like when Sony thought that they could just dump an expensive hardware and expect it to sell because the brand says PS. LMAO.

That was because of price and third party titles. Microsoft took the hardware hit to beat Sony to the punch, but the succeeded as well by cutting Sonys marketshare down tremendously. Really now the war between Sony and Microsoft will come down to three things:

1) Exclusives

2) Hardware

3) Online

Microsoft has one of those things. The other two they will be hard pressed to beat Sony with unless they find a way to keep the Kinect momentum going until next gen. Word has it the next Xbox will have the Kinect integrated into the system and dont really like to entertain that type of speculation. Microsoft is flirting with it though.



Nsanity on 03 March 2012

Fable Heroes?



smroadkill15 on 03 March 2012
Millenium said:
Something post that Jackie Chan mind is full of fuck picture for me? Can't do it because I'm on my phone.

Glad to hear MS might release a XBLA Fable game.

Less glad to see that this thread turned into yet another PS3 vs X360 exclusives pissing contest, like we don't have enough other threads for that.

For real. Instead of an interesting thread talking about the subject it turns into this crap, again. It's almost like some of these members can't have a normal discussion about games. Don't get me wrong I don't care about a little Vs. talk sometimes, but in a thread that was intended for it.  

On topic: Really excited to see what MS has planned. Monday is looking to be a fantastic day for gaming news.        



D-Joe on 03 March 2012

what is this thread about actually



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