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KungKras said:
Well, that text could have some legitimacy if he backed it up with more than "I believe (and feel free to disagree)"

What does Pachter think analysis of the market is? Religion?


If that was the case then I believe he would be Mormon.



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sethnintendo said:
KungKras said:
Well, that text could have some legitimacy if he backed it up with more than "I believe (and feel free to disagree)"

What does Pachter think analysis of the market is? Religion?


If that was the case then I believe he would be Mormon.

Or Scientologist xD



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This guy don't need to go to school. He's so stupid I think lessons could be unuseful for him.



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Zlejedi said:
Nyeguy81 said:
he still goes on about the Wii U launching too late and that they should have come out with an HD Wii years ago just because he predicted they would. get over it pachter. his and meteorologists jobs are the only ones that can be wrong half the time and still have them.

How can people say that with straight face after 2011 Wii sales and first weeks of 2012 ?

Because there's no software to move hardware in the last year and Nintendo is focusing in Wii U which will be released this year? Also, Pachter was predicting for 2009/2010 the Wii HD, when Wii sales were still good.



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I still don't get why Pach was so adamant about Nintendo releasing a "Wii HD".. why? What would the purpose have been? To play games that are already visually barebones like the Wii (insert theme here) games, and to split the userbase between HD and non-HD games? Like say Wii HD came out by 2010 as he predicted.. .so games like Galaxy 2 and DKC Returns would have ONLY been for the Wii HD and not for the millions of people who owned just a plain vanilla Wii? That's ridiculous!



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

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Joelcool7 said:
Michael Pachter cannot be this stupid. I have recently decided he is not a moron he can't be. Fact is Michael has something against Nintendo I do not know why. I could guess he takes bribes I could guess they didn't give him info he wanted. I don't know what Nintendo did to him or didn't do.

But his predictions show he is highly biased and he is purposely misleading investors. The question is why?

Calling those who disagree with him uneducated is hilarious. Ya ya Pachter we all know you have a great education and we do not for the most part. But when your predictions and logic lack common sense education does not matter.

The one thing I agree with is Microsoft is best set for a new generation. The American economies collapse gives them a huge advantage. Microsoft can begin shifting more manufacturing in the US take advantage of Obama and the US governments efforts to give American companies an edge. So Microsoft can make their systems cheaper and they will get tons of help selling it in the US. While the rising yen will make it more and more difficult for Japanese game companies to compete. Japanese systems will become more expensive as time goes on while Microsoft will be able to keep costs lower. The US being the largest market Microsoft will have a massive advantage.

But Pachter seems to be thinking highly optimistically. He has talked about how companies would be foolish to launch their hardware in the current economic conditions globally. lol either Mr.Pachter knows something our Governments don't or he's out of his mind.

Bank of Canada has stated America will never recover financially and the global economy is never going to be the same. Most Governments have forecast the global economy worsening over the next while. While many are even more pessimistic suggesting that the global economy will only continue to collapse over the next 50 years.

Mr.Pachter should a company wait for the economy to improve when almost every government is saying the global economy will never be the same. Or is it bright to get your hardware on the market as fast as possible? If companies can get enough hardware out as the economy worsens they can make money on software.

I would say less graphical power is smart as well. As finances get worse and worse developers will take fewer risks and spend less.

By the way yes Pachter did say Nintendo should launch WiiHD. Pachter is a social digital whore. He is promoting the industry in a major way sometimes logically other times not.

If Nintendo launches at 399$ with sufficient software and a large enough ad campaign it will be a success. 3DS will continue to sell well for another year assuming no major economic collapse occurs prior to Christmas 2012. 2012 is likely the latest any of the three should launch. 2013 is pushing it as resources globally run out as the economy shifts drastically entertainment products like games will struggle to maintain growth.

Of course the entertainment industry has often been sheltered. People would get rid of a lot but entertainment is extremely important. But this is why piracy is so important. As people begin to struggle it is now easier then ever to simply steal the entertainment. In our past economic crisis you couldn't just steal your movies and games.

Nintendo is the second best positioned to launch next generation! Nintendo will succeed this generation though I still think Nintendo will take a loss initially on WiiU and it might not meet Wii's initial sales. However I have a lot of faith that in the long run Nintendo will be better off then they were during the GameCube generation and between it an the last generation.

Michael Pachter works as an analyst for Wedbush Morgan Securities. With how often his "anaysis" is wrong, and the fact that Wedbush Morgan Securities hasn't fired him due to incompetence, it can be safely assumed that he is saying what he is saying because it suits the needs of Wedbush Morgan Securities. While it is unlikely that he is part of a traditional Short and Distort scam, what he is involved in may not be substantially different ...



KungKras said:
sethnintendo said:
KungKras said:
Well, that text could have some legitimacy if he backed it up with more than "I believe (and feel free to disagree)"

What does Pachter think analysis of the market is? Religion?


If that was the case then I believe he would be Mormon.

Or Scientologist xD

Or Christian



NightDragon83 said:
I still don't get why Pach was so adamant about Nintendo releasing a "Wii HD".. why? What would the purpose have been? To play games that are already visually barebones like the Wii (insert theme here) games, and to split the userbase between HD and non-HD games? Like say Wii HD came out by 2010 as he predicted.. .so games like Galaxy 2 and DKC Returns would have ONLY been for the Wii HD and not for the millions of people who owned just a plain vanilla Wii? That's ridiculous!


That's Pachty. Our dear Pachty.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


I like Pachter, whether he's predicting against or for Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo. I always find people that say he's an idiot when he talks about the market/economy quite interesting. However, the worst part is all the people who get so fired up about his predictions. Who cares? Really. Is it really such a big deal that every single time people blow up like he slandered your mother? I thought the freak-out-over-Pachter's-comments thing would've died out a long time ago.

Much love Pach!



NightDragon83 said:
I still don't get why Pach was so adamant about Nintendo releasing a "Wii HD".. why? What would the purpose have been? To play games that are already visually barebones like the Wii (insert theme here) games, and to split the userbase between HD and non-HD games? Like say Wii HD came out by 2010 as he predicted.. .so games like Galaxy 2 and DKC Returns would have ONLY been for the Wii HD and not for the millions of people who owned just a plain vanilla Wii? That's ridiculous!

Pachter is on the payroll of several major Western third parties. A Wii HD (originally predicted to release in 2008) would have enabled third parties to port their games with little effort, because they were unwilling to adapt to the market.

When Sony was bleeding money like mad with the PS3, Pachter's advice for them was to cut the price even further. This wouldn't have done Sony any good, but third parties would have had a bigger addressable market.



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