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SmokedHostage on 15 February 2012

Posting in another misleading oniyide thread.



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Play4Fun on 15 February 2012

This thread went in the exact direction I thought it would when I read the title.



MARCUSDJACKSON on 15 February 2012

you did your research, so i have to give you your props. good job.



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oniyide on 15 February 2012
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
well, i said Wii has the most platformers in the first place, maybe i was wrong afterall, but i was having only retail games in mind

now including XBL games would be logical because they exist on the platform, on the other hand XBL is much more expanded than WiiWare, so it's normal to have more titles, and most downloadable games are 2D platformers anyway, so it's normal for such a big online service to have so many 2D platformers

retail they win of course, but I like to look at the entire spectrum, but you get it.



Ajescent on 15 February 2012
Jazz2K said:
People alway act like XBLA games don't exist but there are a lot of gems in there... some of my most played games are arcade games.


I think you'll find some act as if it's the ONLY thing that exists.



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dark_gh0st_b0y on 15 February 2012

i more or less agree with Rol


and for christ's sake, any comparison as to which console wins the platformer is pathetic, i agree sales don't mean quality, and quantity does not either, but it's crystal clear:

Pos Game Platform Year Genre Publisher North America Europe Japan Rest of World Global
1 New Super Mario Bros. Wii Wii 2009 Platform Nintendo 12.38 5.96 4.50 2.09 24.94
2 Super Mario Galaxy Wii 2007 Platform Nintendo 5.12 3.00 1.20 0.65 9.96
3 Super Mario Galaxy 2 Wii 2010 Platform Nintendo 3.23 1.89 0.98 0.57 6.67
4 Donkey Kong Country Returns Wii 2010 Platform Nintendo 2.55 1.40 1.02 0.44 5.41
5 Super Paper Mario Wii 2007 Platform Nintendo 1.61 0.75 0.59 0.28 3.23
6 Disney Epic Mickey Wii 2010 Platform Disney Interactive Studios 1.71 0.53 0.11 0.23 2.56
7 Super Mario All-Stars: Limited Edition Wii 2010 Platform Nintendo 0.96 0.49 0.92 0.16 2.52
8 Sonic and the Secret Rings Wii 2007 Platform Sega 1.05 1.15 0.04 0.28 2.51
9 Sonic Unleashed Wii 2008 Platform Sega 1.05 0.63 0.02 0.19 1.89
10 Kirby's Epic Yarn Wii 2010 Platform Nintendo 0.85 0.21 0.45 0.10 1.61
11 Sonic Colors Wii 2010 Platform Sega 0.62 0.45 0.01 0.12 1.21
12 Kirby's Return to Dreamland Wii 2011 Platform Nintendo 0.39 0.09 0.59 0.05 1.12
13 Wario Land: Shake It! Wii 2008 Platform Nintendo 0.55 0.28 0.15 0.10 1.08
14 Rabbids Go Home Wii 2009 Platform Ubisoft 0.23 0.70 0.00 0.13 1.06
15 The Simpsons Game Wii 2007 Platform Electronic Arts 0.44 0.41 0.00 0.10 0.96
16 Wall-E Wii 2008 Platform THQ 0.46 0.38 0.00 0.10 0.94
17 de Blob Wii 2008 Platform THQ 0.44 0.34 0.00 0.10 0.88
18 Kung Fu Panda Wii 2008 Platform Activision 0.49 0.30 0.00 0.09 0.88
19 Sonic and the Black Knight Wii 2009 Platform Sega 0.41 0.30 0.01 0.09 0.81
20 New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat Wii 2008 Platform Nintendo 0.23 0.16 0.14 0.05 0.58

 

Pos Game Platform Year Genre Publisher North America Europe Japan Rest of World Global
1 LittleBigPlanet PS3 2008 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 2.42 1.51 0.17 0.73 4.82
2 LittleBigPlanet 2 PS3 2011 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 1.35 0.69 0.06 0.34 2.44
3 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction PS3 2007 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.84 1.00 0.08 0.41 2.34
4 Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time PS3 2009 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.91 0.42 0.03 0.22 1.57
5 Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) PS3 2006 Platform Sega 0.38 0.48 0.04 0.19 1.09
6 Sonic Unleashed PS3 2008 Platform Sega 0.45 0.26 0.01 0.11 0.83
7 Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One PS3 2011 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.56 0.13 0.04 0.09 0.82
8 The Simpsons Game PS3 2007 Platform Electronic Arts 0.36 0.29 0.00 0.13 0.78
9 Sonic Generations PS3 2011 Platform Sega 0.26 0.28 0.02 0.12 0.68
10 Spider-Man 3 PS3 2007 Platform Activision 0.25 0.25 0.02 0.10 0.62
11 Ratchet & Clank: Quest for Booty PS3 2008 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.50 0.00 0.04 0.54
12 Ratatouille PS3 2007 Platform THQ 0.08 0.29 0.00 0.10 0.48
13 Kung Fu Panda PS3 2008 Platform Activision 0.20 0.19 0.00 0.08 0.47
14 Rayman Origins PS3 2011 Platform Ubisoft 0.16 0.19 0.00 0.07 0.42
15 Wall-E PS3 2008 Platform THQ 0.10 0.19 0.00 0.07 0.36
16 The Sly Collection PS3 2010 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.25 0.05 0.01 0.04 0.35
17 Bionic Commando PS3 2009 Platform Capcom 0.11 0.14 0.01 0.05 0.31
18 The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon PS3 2008 Platform Vivendi Games 0.17 0.09 0.00 0.04 0.31
19 Cars 2 PS3 2011 Platform Disney Interactive Studios 0.08 0.10 0.00 0.04 0.21
20 Ben 10 Ultimate Alien: Cosmic Destruction PS3 2010 Platform D3 Publisher 0.07 0.06 0.00 0.03 0.16

 

Pos Game Platform Year Genre Publisher North America Europe Japan Rest of World Global
1 Kung Fu Panda X360 2008 Platform Activision 1.89 0.81 0.00 0.29 3.00
2 The Simpsons Game X360 2007 Platform Electronic Arts 0.51 0.35 0.00 0.10 0.97
3 Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) X360 2006 Platform Sega 0.39 0.45 0.00 0.11 0.94
4 Sonic Unleashed X360 2008 Platform Sega 0.42 0.29 0.00 0.08 0.79
5 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts X360 2008 Platform Microsoft 0.30 0.32 0.00 0.08 0.70
6 Sonic Generations X360 2011 Platform Sega 0.34 0.22 0.00 0.06 0.63
7 Wall-E X360 2008 Platform THQ 0.26 0.25 0.00 0.06 0.58
8 Spider-Man 3 X360 2007 Platform Activision 0.47 0.00 0.00 0.04 0.51
9 Crash: Mind Over Mutant X360 2008 Platform Vivendi Games 0.21 0.18 0.00 0.05 0.43
10 Rayman Origins X360 2011 Platform Ubisoft 0.17 0.15 0.00 0.04 0.36
11 The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon X360 2008 Platform Vivendi Games 0.14 0.09 0.00 0.03 0.26
12 Bionic Commando X360 2009 Platform Capcom 0.11 0.10 0.01 0.03 0.25
13 Ratatouille X360 2007 Platform THQ 0.21 0.00 0.00 0.02 0.23
14 Cars 2 X360 2011 Platform Disney Interactive Studios 0.10 0.08 0.00 0.02 0.21
15 Ben 10 Ultimate Alien: Cosmic Destruction X360 2010 Platform D3 Publisher 0.08 0.05 0.00 0.01 0.14
16 Monsters vs. Aliens X360 2009 Platform Activision 0.08 0.03 0.00 0.01 0.12
17 Open Season X360 2006 Platform Ubisoft 0.10 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.11
18 Space Chimps X360 2008 Platform Brash Entertainment 0.09 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.09
19 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs X360 2009 Platform Activision 0.07 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.09
20 Where the Wild Things Are X360 2009 Platform Warner Bros. Interactive 0.08 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.08

 

so please no more about who wins the platformer, not to mention Kung Fu Panda was bundled for quite some time....



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oniyide on 15 February 2012
RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:

I didnt count all the games from that list, because some clearly are not platformers, NJ3 is a clear example it was not part of my count. 

Wii is the king of current generation consoles. It sold the most.

No, Wii is the best console for a gamer this generation, because it has the most games. The Wii is the king of games this generation.

The entire premise of your original post is flawed. You say that the reason you made this thread is because you have been hearing people say that the Wii is the king of platformers this generation. Then you make the leap that these people mean who has the most games while the statement actually refers to which console is the #1 platform, if you are a fan of the genre. This makes sheer quantity irrelevant, it's only about the quantity of quality games. The Xbox 360 may have a lot of games like LOL LOL Kitty Commando, but who cares? (By the way, I am not making fun of this game, that is its actual title.)

Also, the way you justify XBLA games is funny:

"That is alot, now of course a vast majority of these games are on XBOX LIVE, but I think it would be ignorant to not consider them, they are games on the platform after all."

Why is it funny? Because you choose to be ignorant about classic games, even though they are games on the platform too.

Regarding your edit to the original post, this doesn't prove that you have no agenda. It's pretty common that people whose favorite console doesn't win in a specific category are still satisfied as long as the console they dislike doesn't finish in first. And the premise of this thread is that you wanted to challenge that the Wii is the king of platformers this generation. It always bugs you when you read some positive statement about the Wii, so you have an urge to disagree. A person could write a (somewhat) lengthy post about the Xbox 360 with one line being about the Wii at the end and you would decide to reply to the Wii part alone.

quality is subjective, there might be some guy out there who likes that kitty commando.  Quantity is never irrelevant, because thats something you can prove with hard data. Quality is again subjective, maybe epeople dont like the platformers on Wii but like the 360 ones?

VC games are not Wii games, just like PS classics are not PS3 games but its funny that you dont complain about that. hmmmm

Sounds like your just mad because you r fav console is not on top of the platform genre



Barozi on 15 February 2012

Seriously Rol.

The number one choice for platformers is clearly the PC then. All Nintendo consoles combined cannot beat its library - fact.

Don't make the mistake to underestimate other platforms. There are a lot of quality titles available. Feel free to do a comparison between Wii/WW and 360/XBLA games.
Surely there are more platformers on XBLA than on 360, but hey I've beaten NSMB Wii in less than 6 hours as well and that's not a long time for a retail game (obviously has multiplayer as well), so they are definitely comparable.



Barozi on 15 February 2012
RolStoppable said:
Barozi said:
Seriously Rol.

The number one choice for platformers is clearly the PC then. All Nintendo consoles combined cannot beat its library - fact.

Don't make the mistake to underestimate other platforms. There are a lot of quality titles available. Feel free to do a comparison between Wii/WW and 360/XBLA games.
Surely there are more platformers on XBLA than on 360, but hey I've beaten NSMB Wii in less than 6 hours as well and that's not a long time for a retail game (obviously has multiplayer as well), so they are definitely comparable.

The PC cannot win a comparison between 360, PS3 and Wii. Besides, it's not about the sheer quantity of games, but the number of quality titles and how big they are that makes one platform the king.

Also, there's a difference between rushing through a game and completing all of its levels.

True, that's why NES (for example) can't win this either. I agree that the number of quality titles is the most important criteria, still the thread creator pointed out that this thread is about sheer quantity (thread title suggests the same).
What "king of ..." really means is unrelevant. He even admits that it can also mean in terms of sales, which he is explicitly excluding when creating this thread.

That was just a normal playthrough. Not rushing involved at all. Obviously did not pursue all bonus coins or secret places whatever. Mario games are not the only ones with optional goals. (If you looked at some XBLA achievements, you would come to the same conclusion)



milkyjoe on 15 February 2012

Not sure why you'd discount Virtual Console titles, given that many of them are appearing on a Nintendo platform for the very first time.

I also don't get why you're using Gamespot which clearly has some strange definitions when this website has a similar search tool that seems far more accurate.

Furthermore, the iPhone has 247 platform games listed here, and the site is nowhere close to having the full iOS library uploaded. So that wins. The less said about how they play with only touchscreen controls the better though...



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