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happydolphin said:

Meh, he summed it up good, but it's a sad reality of the site. Did it occur to you I was aware of what he was saying? I was just saying it was lame...

Who's to say that users don't learn? The lesson from past years is "enjoy while it lasts".

So if we are looking at a situation where dedicated gaming handhelds are apparently in a battle with smartphones and hardcore gamers need to sell the current machines (3DS, Vita) as much as possible to stop Apple and others, then maybe now is the time that Sony plays the role of the wounded soldier on the battlefield who tells his buddy Nintendo to leave him behind, because otherwise they will both die.



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happydolphin said:

Meh, he summed it up good, but it's a sad reality of the site. Did it occur to you I was aware of what he was saying? I was just saying it was lame...

It is not a problem of the site, is part of human nature. When someone does something bad to you, you want them to suffer at least part of the pain you felt, you want them to receive some kind of punishment. Like when someone stole from you, you want them to go to jail to remember them that there are consequences, you don't just forget and move on (you do but not fast enough). You can do it but is not as easy as it sound because is part of our education.

In this case the wound is still too fresh and people remember, if more time had passed, less people would have fall into the behavior you think is lame.



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flagstaad said:
happydolphin said:

That's why it's lame to judge consoles so soon. They did it for the 3DS, they did it for the Wii, they did it for the DS, and now they're doing it for the Vita... I find it's as if some users don't learn from the past. :S

They don't learn because is not the same group of people. 8 months ago it was the Sony crowd telling the Nintendo group that the 3DS was doomed and that the Vita will destroy the console very fast because it had a great launch line-up and excellent graphics. Now is the revenge of the Nintendo crowd as the Vita is doing even worse that the 3DS, most of them may even KNOW that the console is not doomed/dead, but they still want some kind of retaliation as they were suffering less than a year ago.

I don't get how the Nintendo crowd, how unenjoyable that bashing was, would want to feed it back to the Sony crowd... it beats me. Plus, many of us own Sony consoles, so... :S

Add to that some will be bitting their tongues when the Vita dusts off, and there you have it.

Bring back predictions, fine. But trolling per se is lame...


I am aware that you are just saying that it might still explode, but just like there are people who are convinced that the Vita is still going to have a sales explosion, there are also people who believe it wont. Just see it as predictions from these people and dont put so much wait in it. I can easily understand why some people think it wont sell well at any point aswell as people who still say it's sales are going to explode at some point. I myself think it also still to early to predict such things, but most people have  opinions or see something that they think is happening now or will happen. Just let them be.

Frankly I find people like you to be far more annoying. Sometimes it's fun to not  take the moderate, reasonable side and just go with it. Can you imagen how horribly boring it would be if everybody was reasonable in these kinds of threads??? To me these threads would be excrutiatingly boring without the melddowns and fanboys.



SleepWaking said:
happydolphin said:
flagstaad said:
happydolphin said:

That's why it's lame to judge consoles so soon. They did it for the 3DS, they did it for the Wii, they did it for the DS, and now they're doing it for the Vita... I find it's as if some users don't learn from the past. :S

They don't learn because is not the same group of people. 8 months ago it was the Sony crowd telling the Nintendo group that the 3DS was doomed and that the Vita will destroy the console very fast because it had a great launch line-up and excellent graphics. Now is the revenge of the Nintendo crowd as the Vita is doing even worse that the 3DS, most of them may even KNOW that the console is not doomed/dead, but they still want some kind of retaliation as they were suffering less than a year ago.

I don't get how the Nintendo crowd, how unenjoyable that bashing was, would want to feed it back to the Sony crowd... it beats me. Plus, many of us own Sony consoles, so... :S

Add to that some will be bitting their tongues when the Vita dusts off, and there you have it.

Bring back predictions, fine. But trolling per se is lame...


I am aware that you are just saying that it might still explode, but just like there are people who are convinced that the Vita is still going to have a sales explosion, there are also people who believe it wont. Just see it as predictions from these people and dont put so much wait in it. I can easily understand why some people think it wont sell well at any point aswell as people who still say it's sales are going to explode at some point. I myself think it also still to early to predict such things, but most people have  opinions or see something that they think is happening now or will happen. Just let them be.

Frankly I find people like you to be far more annoying. Sometimes it's fun to not  take the moderate, reasonable side and just go with it. Can you imagen how horribly boring it would be if everybody was reasonable in these kinds of threads??? To me these threads would be excrutiatingly boring without the melddowns and fanboys.

God I am having trouble wording my thoughts and opinions today, but this part sums up what I meant by entertaining. In previous comment. Given I am not picking defined side (since I like both products), I am just relaxing and watching the fireworks and enjoying my products. 

Edit: Just editing my comment slightly, also unbolded a section of the paragraph. 



 

Acevil said:
happydolphin said:

Meh, he summed it up good, but it's a sad reality of the site. Did it occur to you I was aware of what he was saying? I was just saying it was lame...


I learned with dealing with depressing Nintendo fans and few attacking sony fans last year, you can't do much.

Now I find all entertaining since I no longer care what is doomed, what is sucessful, as long as games come to me, and I enjoy the device. 


Amen to this man, wish more people were like this.



    

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RolStoppable said:
happydolphin said:

Meh, he summed it up good, but it's a sad reality of the site. Did it occur to you I was aware of what he was saying? I was just saying it was lame...

Who's to say that users don't learn? The lesson from past years is "enjoy while it lasts".

So if we are looking at a situation where dedicated gaming handhelds are apparently in a battle with smartphones and hardcore gamers need to sell the current machines (3DS, Vita) as much as possible to stop Apple and others, then maybe now is the time that Sony plays the role of the wounded soldier on the battlefield who tells his buddy Nintendo to leave him behind, because otherwise they will both die.

It's a possibility, but wouldn't you want the same had you been in their shoes? :P

@Sleepwaking You remind me of the nice crow in Galaki's thread. Good stuff ;/) I didn't realize this site was for watching people troll each other, I thought it was for debating business. Give yourself a pat on the back. ;)



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BasilZero said:
Acevil said:
happydolphin said:

Meh, he summed it up good, but it's a sad reality of the site. Did it occur to you I was aware of what he was saying? I was just saying it was lame...


I learned with dealing with depressing Nintendo fans and few attacking sony fans last year, you can't do much.

Now I find all entertaining since I no longer care what is doomed, what is sucessful, as long as games come to me, and I enjoy the device. 


Amen to this man, wish more people were like this.


To be fair, that would be boring. You only need to have few people like myself. These threads wouldn't reach 100posts if you had everyone be somewhat neutral. 

Add: Note that I consider myself somewhat neutral, you can't be completely neutral, unless you have like zero interest in the product or you are trying really hard to hold back bias. 



 

happydolphin said:
RolStoppable said:
happydolphin said:

Meh, he summed it up good, but it's a sad reality of the site. Did it occur to you I was aware of what he was saying? I was just saying it was lame...

Who's to say that users don't learn? The lesson from past years is "enjoy while it lasts".

So if we are looking at a situation where dedicated gaming handhelds are apparently in a battle with smartphones and hardcore gamers need to sell the current machines (3DS, Vita) as much as possible to stop Apple and others, then maybe now is the time that Sony plays the role of the wounded soldier on the battlefield who tells his buddy Nintendo to leave him behind, because otherwise they will both die.

It's a possibility, but wouldn't you want the same had you been in their shoes? :P

@Sleepwaking You remind me of the nice crow in Galaki's thread. Good stuff ;/) I didn't realize this site was for watching people troll each other, I thought it was for debating business. Give yourself a pat on the back. ;).

Hey I enjoy sales numbers, but I also enjoy other things which a threads like this brings.  At least I'm not being al mighty and high as to what others can't and shouldn't enjoy. Just like I said let them be. Why would it hurt you if somebody is saying a console is dead?? 



Acevil said:
BasilZero said:


Amen to this man, wish more people were like this.


To be fair, that would be boring. You only need to have few people like myself. These threads wouldn't reach 100posts if you had everyone be somewhat neutral. 


I suppose your right, its been entertaining, but seems like there's a huge gap between fans on the forums from what I've seen at least the ones who are willing to defend their respected systems in threads like these ;P



    

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