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Very well done, and there were not too many spoilers in there for those who want to still watch it.
I think out of all the characters I enjoyed Peter Lorre's the best. What else could you expect from a man who was in Casablanca and other Humphrey Bogart movies? During his short life he proved to be an amazing actor!

Barry Nelson did a good job for not really knowing what or how he was supposed to act. I am still not too sure how it is that he got out of the bathroom at the end. I did see that he picked something up, I would assume he picked the lock which is pretty easy.

 

Good movie, I enjoy old Shows like that from back then! It kind of Reminded me of Alfred hitchcock.

 



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well i just watched it and i do really enjoy old films in black and white,peter lorre as le chiffre is the best thing about casino royale,i think le chiffre is one of my fav bond villains really especially after seeing this tv movie aswell as the recent one.i haven't read the novels so i don't really know what bond is truly like although i am told he is hard,cold and ruthless and not like the joker we often see in the movies,he is not scottish is he,please don't tell me he is scottish.you know as a white english straight man you can feel like everybody has you by the balls and you can't move for fear of losing them and i look to bond,he still does it for all of us which is why i was happy craig brought some umph back to bond,anyway enough about my identity issues and back to the tv movie

i like the card game storyline,not sure they really got bonds casting right but it was for american tv so what else are they going to do,don't think he really fitted the kind of evening that was going on,it was like film noir detective bond,he thought he was bogart didn't he but it was quite brutal,pliers on the toes in the nice marble bath,good old le chiffre and pleasing to see htey started as they mean to go on,no one killing james bond when they have the opportunity and a sexy sophisticated lady

i think it will be fun to watch them as you go,i might try and pick up some of them,i remember seeing Dr No going cheap second hand on bluray,of course i know them pretty well anyway,i think die another day is the only bond film i don't really know well and brosnan is my least favourite but maybe this will change my mind,i don't hate any of them to be truthful

Bond films really do have a place in film hisotry and started a few things for action cinema like the superb opening titles, theme songs and style ,not as popular with todays market but still going and will always have a film in him somewhere,

it reminds me to tell people about Night of the demon(curse of the demon in the us) a 1957 bw movie about an american expert who flies over to england to disprove an occult leader of his dark magic,it really is one of the best chiller movies i've watched,if you like that sort of genre,can't recommend it enough

i prefer bond villains to be imaginative and have ambitions/background and not just going after a drug dealer or arms dealer story like a few of the films do



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Brosnan is your least favorite?

What about the guy who plays bond in this movie, or the guy from Hot Fuzz who played bond in the early 90's, or lazenby?

Brosnan is right behind Connery. I.M.O and in many others opinions as well. Goldeneye alone cemented his spot at number two!



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spurgeonryan said:
Brosnan is your least favorite?

What about the guy who plays bond in this movie, or the guy from Hot Fuzz who played bond in the early 90's, or lazenby?

Brosnan is right behind Connery. I.M.O and in many others opinions as well. Goldeneye alone cemented his spot at number two!



not for me,but we will have to see i prefer lazenby and dalton,timothy dalton was the 80's wasn't he i like the tommorow never dies story of the media manipulator,here is a chance for brosnan to see how he really shapes up in the world of bond

and the guy we just watched is not a real bond movie if you ask me



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spurgeonryan said:
Brosnan is your least favorite?

What about the guy who plays bond in this movie, or the guy from Hot Fuzz who played bond in the early 90's, or lazenby?

Brosnan is right behind Connery. I.M.O and in many others opinions as well. Goldeneye alone cemented his spot at number two!

I thought Brosnan was at his best in Tomorrow Never Dies.



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MontanaHatchet said:
Excellent review Amp, loved reading it. I especially enjoyed reading the comparison between the recent Casino Royale film and this one. Seems Le Chiffre was a strong point in both films. I also really liked the part where you mentioned the final poker hand in the 2006 version.  Easily the most unlikely thing to ever happen in a Bond movie.

Great job Amp, keep it up!

I'm not so sure about that.  Tanya Roberts being sexually attrated to a 167 year old Roger Moore in A View To A Kill was also pretty unlikely.



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zuvuyeay said:
spurgeonryan said:
Brosnan is your least favorite?

What about the guy who plays bond in this movie, or the guy from Hot Fuzz who played bond in the early 90's, or lazenby?

Brosnan is right behind Connery. I.M.O and in many others opinions as well. Goldeneye alone cemented his spot at number two!



not for me,but we will have to see i prefer lazenby and dalton,timothy dalton was the 80's wasn't he i like the tommorow never dies story of the media manipulator,here is a chance for brosnan to see how he really shapes up in the world of bond

and the guy we just watched is not a real bond movie if you ask me

First off, I don't consider Barry Nelson to be a real Bond either.  It was a completely different character the way that it was done.

Out of the official Bonds, I also rank Brosnan last.  Sure, he was a good looking guy and could charm the pants off of the ladies, but he was not convincing as a tough guy at all.  When Connery, Lazenby, or Craig punched someone there was no question that it would hurt.  When Brosnan would, you were afraid that he broke a nail or something.  Also, his portrayal of Bond to me was similar to Roger Moore in the way that it seemed as though he was more interested in spitting out one liners than getting the job done.  The thing is, Roger Moore actually was much better at the comedic stuff and in that way Brosnan comes across as Roger Moore Lite.  I know that many people disagree with me and list Brosnan as their 2nd favorite or even sometimes top Bond ever, but I never saw him that way.

Now I really like the movie GoldenEye, but Pierce Brosnan was not why (I didn't care for the next three nearly as much).  The plot and villians were the reason why it was a good film. 



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amp316 said:
zuvuyeay said:
spurgeonryan said:
Brosnan is your least favorite?

What about the guy who plays bond in this movie, or the guy from Hot Fuzz who played bond in the early 90's, or lazenby?

Brosnan is right behind Connery. I.M.O and in many others opinions as well. Goldeneye alone cemented his spot at number two!



not for me,but we will have to see i prefer lazenby and dalton,timothy dalton was the 80's wasn't he i like the tommorow never dies story of the media manipulator,here is a chance for brosnan to see how he really shapes up in the world of bond

and the guy we just watched is not a real bond movie if you ask me

First off, I don't consider Barry Nelson to be a real Bond either.  It was a completely different character the way that it was done.

Out of the official Bonds, I also rank Brosnan last.  Sure, he was a good looking guy and could charm the pants off of the ladies, but he was not convincing as a tough guy at all.  When Connery, Lazenby, or Craig punched someone there was no question that it would hurt.  When Brosnan would, you were afraid that he broke a nail or something.  Also, his portrayal of Bond to me was similar to Roger Moore in the way that it seemed as though he was more interested in spitting out one liners than getting the job done.  The thing is, Roger Moore actually was much better at the comedic stuff and in that way Brosnan comes across as Roger Moore Lite.  I know that many people disagree with me and list Brosnan as their 2nd favorite or even sometimes top Bond ever, but I never saw him that way.

Now I really like the movie GoldenEye, but Pierce Brosnan was not why (I didn't care for the next three nearly as much).  The plot and villians were the reason why it was a good film. 

You liked Goldeneye. That is reason enough why Brosnan is number 2. If Sean Connery would have made just one movie "From Russia with Love", he still would have been the best Bond ever! Brosnan worked his ass off in Goldeneye, and some would say Die Another Day as well. Surfing Tsunamis, Fighting in Planes plummeting to Earth, Battling Sean Bean (One of the best villains ever!) flew an airplane off of a cliff while riding a motorcycle, etc.

Bond does not have to be a tough guy, Sean Connery was not all that tough, and neither was Mr. Moore for that matter.

1. Connery vs Odd Job

2. Connery vs Guy in train in From Russia with Love

I think that people have forgotten that Bond has not always been the running, parkay jumping, pain bearing, beat to a pulp agent like Daniel Craig portrays in the recent movies. I think Casino Royale was no different than the Casino Royale in this movie here. They were testing the waters. Back then it was more of a 'How do we do this Bond thing'. Recently it was how do we compete with Jason Bourne, and get back to reality after the previous Bond films (with Brosnan). Did you see the 2 points that I made above this paragraph? Bond did not automatically win because he was some sort of tough guy. Yes, it helped in  his fight with Grant, but it was not the reason the tables had turned. Ingenuity. Connery had it and so did Brosnan. You saw it in Brosnans eyes whenever he was on screen. From the very beginning of Goldeneye he was already one step ahead even though he was up shit creek. Reducing the time on the bombs, pushing the cart to the conveyor belt, F**K!-flying off a cliff on a motorcycle to catch a plane as it careened off a cliff to its doom only to fly it out while the whole airport blew up in the back ground!

I think Brosnan deserves much more respect. He may not have been tough, but he had the balls an no-how to get the job done. Always!



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spurgeonryan said:
amp316 said:
zuvuyeay said:
spurgeonryan said:
Brosnan is your least favorite?

What about the guy who plays bond in this movie, or the guy from Hot Fuzz who played bond in the early 90's, or lazenby?

Brosnan is right behind Connery. I.M.O and in many others opinions as well. Goldeneye alone cemented his spot at number two!



not for me,but we will have to see i prefer lazenby and dalton,timothy dalton was the 80's wasn't he i like the tommorow never dies story of the media manipulator,here is a chance for brosnan to see how he really shapes up in the world of bond

and the guy we just watched is not a real bond movie if you ask me

First off, I don't consider Barry Nelson to be a real Bond either.  It was a completely different character the way that it was done.

Out of the official Bonds, I also rank Brosnan last.  Sure, he was a good looking guy and could charm the pants off of the ladies, but he was not convincing as a tough guy at all.  When Connery, Lazenby, or Craig punched someone there was no question that it would hurt.  When Brosnan would, you were afraid that he broke a nail or something.  Also, his portrayal of Bond to me was similar to Roger Moore in the way that it seemed as though he was more interested in spitting out one liners than getting the job done.  The thing is, Roger Moore actually was much better at the comedic stuff and in that way Brosnan comes across as Roger Moore Lite.  I know that many people disagree with me and list Brosnan as their 2nd favorite or even sometimes top Bond ever, but I never saw him that way.

Now I really like the movie GoldenEye, but Pierce Brosnan was not why (I didn't care for the next three nearly as much).  The plot and villians were the reason why it was a good film. 

You liked Goldeneye. That is reason enough why Brosnan is number 2. If Sean Connery would have made just one movie "From Russia with Love", he still would have been the best Bond ever! Brosnan worked his ass off in Goldeneye, and some would say Die Another Day as well. Surfing Tsunamis, Fighting in Planes plummeting to Earth, Battling Sean Bean (One of the best villains ever!) flew an airplane off of a cliff while riding a motorcycle, etc.

Bond does not have to be a tough guy, Sean Connery was not all that tough, and neither was Mr. Moore for that matter.

1. Connery vs Odd Job

2. Connery vs Guy in train in From Russia with Love

I think that people have forgotten that Bond has not always been the running, parkay jumping, pain bearing, beat to a pulp agent like Daniel Craig portrays in the recent movies. I think Casino Royale was no different than the Casino Royale in this movie here. They were testing the waters. Back then it was more of a 'How do we do this Bond thing'. Recently it was how do we compete with Jason Bourne, and get back to reality after the previous Bond films (with Brosnan). Did you see the 2 points that I made above this paragraph? Bond did not automatically win because he was some sort of tough guy. Yes, it helped in  his fight with Grant, but it was not the reason the tables had turned. Ingenuity. Connery had it and so did Brosnan. You saw it in Brosnans eyes whenever he was on screen. From the very beginning of Goldeneye he was already one step ahead even though he was up shit creek. Reducing the time on the bombs, pushing the cart to the conveyor belt, F**K!-flying off a cliff on a motorcycle to catch a plane as it careened off a cliff to its doom only to fly it out while the whole airport blew up in the back ground!

I think Brosnan deserves much more respect. He may not have been tough, but he had the balls an no-how to get the job done. Always!

GoldenEye was a very good Bond film, but not one of the best.  I would rank many Bond films higher.  Anyway, I do not rank the actors by how good the movies were that they were in.  To me On Her Majesty's Secret Service was probably the best non-Connery, but that doesn't make Lazenby my second favorite Bond.

I am not saying that Bond always won in the end because of his fighting ability, but it definitely is a factor.  This man is not only an agent for the secret service, but he works for the Double 0 Section.  This means that he has a license to kill.  Why is this?  It's because he is highly skilled in not only weapon proficiency, but also in hand to hand combat.  Of course he has to rely on ingenuity against guys like Odd Job and Jaws since they would be unbeatable otherwise, but he should be able to dispose of most opponents (with his bare hands) easily.  

I don't know what Connery movies you were watching where he wasn't that tough.  There are many sequences that involve brawling and he was very convincing in them.  I couldn't even tell you how many times he one hit KO-ed someone.  Brosnan even has done it.  He did that hold both hands up spin around and punch somebody out move on more than one occasion and every time that I see it, I shake my head in disbelief.  

To me the reason that Moore and Brosnan are guys that push buttons and blow things up more than the other Bonds is because even the film makers know that they aren't very believable in the physical action sequences.     



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You have no argument from me there with Moore. Out of the three Bonds with more than 2 movies under their belt I rank him the lowest. For some reason the Directors of all the Roger Moore films thought that the last Connery Bond was the best and that is what they did for the rest of the 80's. Pure bizarro craziness!

Mr. Connery did have his share of Fight scenes, and he was good at it *cough Pussy Galore cough*. Albeit, Brosnan had his own female trouble in G.E, but she was a ruthless Russian! By the time Goldeneye had come out we were in a new world. Flashy lights, technology, etc were here to be used by the directors. Bond did not need to be as tough as the action stars of the 60's-70's were. I think Arnold S. killed more people in Commando than anyone has in any movie ever by themselves! That is just how it was. I was not just basing my vote off of 'From Russia with Love and Goldeneye', but those are the best examples. I seem to remember Brosnan getting his ass handed to him and coming back for more in Die Another Day at the end as well. He may not have looked that part, but he had had it in him! Franklin Roosevelt did not look the part of a President, but we all know what he did.

Connery
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Lazenby
Dalton
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