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spurgeonryan said:
TWRoO said:
Quantum of Solace was a direct sequel?

Ok now I'm not even sure I've seen it.
Wait, did Casino Royale end at the bit where Bond phones the cream suited guy then shoots him in the leg from afar?


Yes, and that was the best scene in that movie in my opinion. Then it basically starts out there in the next one. That is where I will leave you...

I think I have seen QoS then or at least the start... chase around Venice (I think 'twas Venice) then woman in red trapped underwater in a lift or something. Can't recall what happens much after that though.

EDIT: Hmm, just read the plot on Wikipedia, doesn't seem to match ... am I getting things in the wrong order? I definitely remember the Atacama desert bit and the police trying to frame Bond by putting Mathis in the car though.

EDIT2: OK figured it out... seems I was mixing up bits of Casino with QoS. What the hell am I gonna do tomorrow without Wiki :-/



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Ugh, that original is ASS... I don't even consider it part of the Bond series. The new version is the best Bond film ever IMO. However the most recent one sucked balls (Because as Daniel Craig admitted, they didn't have any writers because of the strike, so they just winged it basically). Hope this new upcoming one is awesome though.



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Jexy said:
Ugh, that original is ASS... I don't even consider it part of the Bond series. The new version is the best Bond film ever IMO. However the most recent one sucked balls (Because as Daniel Craig admitted, they didn't have any writers because of the strike, so they just winged it basically). Hope this new upcoming one is awesome though.


I would not say that it was too horrible. I did not like the main baddie, but the plot was pretty good, along with the evil master plan!



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brendude13 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Excellent review Amp, loved reading it. I especially enjoyed reading the comparison between the recent Casino Royale film and this one. Seems Le Chiffre was a strong point in both films. I also really liked the part where you mentioned the final poker hand in the 2006 version.  Easily the most unlikely thing to ever happen in a Bond movie.

Great job Amp, keep it up!

What did you find so unlikely about it? Haven't seen it in a while, but I don't remember it being rediculously out of the ordinary. Was it the hand he got, or something else?



In that hand one guy has an Ace high Flush, two of them have full houses, one has a straight flush.  The odds of this actually happening is about as likely as Jessica Alba stalking me for a date.  Also, looking at the board and you could tell that there was the possibilty of several monster hands.  All of the players just check.  Trust me, someone would've bet and bet big to see if someone else had something and to also made sure that no one got anything if they already didn't have it.  Bond would've never had the chance to stay in the hand and get his straight flush. 



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amp316 said:
brendude13 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Excellent review Amp, loved reading it. I especially enjoyed reading the comparison between the recent Casino Royale film and this one. Seems Le Chiffre was a strong point in both films. I also really liked the part where you mentioned the final poker hand in the 2006 version.  Easily the most unlikely thing to ever happen in a Bond movie.

Great job Amp, keep it up!

What did you find so unlikely about it? Haven't seen it in a while, but I don't remember it being rediculously out of the ordinary. Was it the hand he got, or something else?



In that hand one guy has an Ace high Flush, two of them have full houses, one has a straight flush.  The odds of this actually happening is about as likely as Jessica Alba stalking me for a date.  Also, looking at the board and you could tell that there was the possibilty of several monster hands.  All of the players just check.  Trust me, someone would've bet and bet big to see if someone else had something and to also made sure that no one got anything if they already didn't have it.  Bond would've never had the chance to stay in the hand and get his straight flush. 

I will break into your conversation and say that Bond is incredibly lucky as well.



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amp316 said:

In that hand one guy has an Ace high Flush, two of them have full houses, one has a straight flush.  The odds of this actually happening is about as likely as Jessica Alba stalking me for a date.  Also, looking at the board and you could tell that there was the possibilty of several monster hands.  All of the players just check.  Trust me, someone would've bet and bet big to see if someone else had something and to also made sure that no one got anything if they already didn't have it.  Bond would've never had the chance to stay in the hand and get his straight flush. 

Ehh, I'm confused. I know that the odds of getting those hands are very unlikely, maybe they should have toned it down a little, but Bond's winning hand needed to clear the table, a straight flush was very suitable. All of them went all in on their first bets because they were confident with their hands, are you trying to say they would have tested the water first with a smaller bet?



had a look at lunch in the shops today and hmv had most of the bonds for £3 but no Dr no,i'll have to have a rummage around so i can watch it for a bit of a natter about it after amps review



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Well if I can find a way to embed Dr. No I will if no ne else finds it. Although extras royalty money for Sean Connery would be nice, since he only does magazine ads and voices now. I am happy that he finally gets to spend time with his family in his old age!



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brendude13 said:
amp316 said:

In that hand one guy has an Ace high Flush, two of them have full houses, one has a straight flush.  The odds of this actually happening is about as likely as Jessica Alba stalking me for a date.  Also, looking at the board and you could tell that there was the possibilty of several monster hands.  All of the players just check.  Trust me, someone would've bet and bet big to see if someone else had something and to also made sure that no one got anything if they already didn't have it.  Bond would've never had the chance to stay in the hand and get his straight flush. 

Ehh, I'm confused. I know that the odds of getting those hands are very unlikely, maybe they should have toned it down a little, but Bond's winning hand needed to clear the table, a straight flush was very suitable. All of them went all in on their first bets because they were confident with their hands, are you trying to say they would have tested the water first with a smaller bet?

I'll explain the hand as if it actually happened (even if it wasn't very likely).

If I remember correctly, the board (cards that are shown on the table) had four spades, a pair (which make three of a kind or even a full house probable), a possible straight draw, and even a possible straight flush draw.  The guy with the ace high flush definitely would have not went all in if he new how to play cards, since it would not have looked good at all with that board.  The guy with the lower full house would have tested the waters (not immediately went all in) by betting.  Le Chiffre would have probably raised which would have tipped off that he had the higher full house or even the straight flush.  Bond would have then probably went all in showing everyone that the  had a straight flush and everyone would have folded.  Le Chiffre beeing shown as a mathematical genius earlier in the movie leads me to believe that he would have figured out that Bond had the straight flush or was the world's biggest bullshitter.  He would not have been so overconfident about his hand and probably folded knowing that over 100 million dollars was at stake for him.  The problem with a straight flush is that when anyone sees the possibility of one, they play very cautiously or get out of the hand.  The straight flush is the best hand in poker, but it doesn't normally win you much money.     

I would have though it was cooler if only Bond and Le Chiffre were left playing and Bond got a straight flush to win.  The odds would have been even less and Le Chiffre would have been likelly to take the gamble.  That's what I think anyways. 

I do still love the new Casino Royale though, but as they say - that's another thread.



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the card hand was the classic dumbing down of well everything,with the guy explaining it like we are all complete idiots,

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