Outside Uncharted, God of War, and Gran Turismo, Sony has nothing on Nintendo. Outside Halo, Gears and Forza MS has nothing on Nintendo. I can apply your logic in the opposite direction easily.

Do you forget that Metroid Prime 3 has a meta score of 90/100, and that other games in that franchise have seen a metascore as high as 97/100. That's more then ANY Sony 1st party exclusive.

Do you forget that Mario Kart outsells both GT5 and Forza 3 combined x2!

Do you forget that XenoBlade has the highest score for a JRPG this gen?

No, Nintendo is much more then Mario, Zelda, and Smash Bros, those are just games you are interested in. Nintendo offers the most AAA quality titles, and with Nintendo we know the quality is consistantly high.

You critisize MS and Nintendo for having gaming droughts, but what does Sony offer for 2012 for the PS3? For 2011 Sony didn't even release a single 1st party game for the PSP, and where were you before 2009 when PS3 only had Resistance, Motorstorm, and Uncharted 1 (a good, but not great game)? Nintnedo had Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Metroid Prime, Fire Emblem, and a whole assortment of 9/10 or greater titles. Microsoft too had Halo, Gears, Forza, PGR, Fable, and many timed exclusives.

Gaming is defined by more then 1 or two strong years of sales. 2007 and 2008 are largely regarded to be two of the greatest years in gaming, not only for this gen, but of all time, and guess what? It's because of Nintendo and MS, not Sony. Just because Sony is catching wind near the end of the PS3's life means nothing.

d21lewis: I agree with you. Metroid Prime 3 is much better then any shooter hybrid or shooter this gen (well I like Mass Effect 2 better, but that's not exclusive). Smash Bros is my favorite fighter, and Mario Kart is probably that unmissable title to own. With XenoBlade and The Last Story comming, Wii has more must have titles then PS3 and 360. People who don't see that, probably don't own a Wii, and just label it because that's the easiest thing to do.

I love the bold, I don't totally agree, but yes it's true. Resident Evil 4 on Gamecube sold good, but not great. The PS2 port did better, but at the same token Isn't Tales of Symphonia the best selling Tales of game, and don't JRPG's sell dump trucks loads full on the DS? Nintendo console owners have unique tastes in games, and Nintendo, unlike Sony and MS, caters to all gamers well.

Wii didn't get much third party support because Gamecube sold so crappy, and like SEGA many thought Nintendo might be out of the home console war. Back in the NES and SNES days, Nintendo consoles got the most 3rd party support, and it's still the case for Nintendo handhelds. I think Wii U will change that, Nintendo is big on 3rd party support.

Just want to add, I have more HD games then Wii, but when I look at my esclucives, I value the Wii ones more. Like you said, even if I beat Donkey Kong Country: Returns, Smash Bros, and Mario Kart (Not so much Metroid Prime) I will want to return to them. Some 360 games are like that with heavy online support, but I have yet to play a PS3 exclusive which I came back to after beating it.

Nintendo puts more effort into making fun worthwhile games. This is why Nintendo games never depreciate. Try to get a copy of Mario Kart now, it's still a $50 game. I can't say the same for Forza or GT.

I didn't really want to make an argument or address any particular points , I just like to ramble on sometimes. I never pointed at you for saying it, you may have my rsponse to some post waaay back in the thread (which I posted faaaar too late) with some other conversation/discussion you had.

I mean who knows who talks about what anymore! I stand by all the truth I said but I've got no idea if it was really a genuine response to someone or just thoughts bubbling from certain bits and bobs of information from various posters that pooped onto the screen.

It's all good man. Sorry if you thought I had some argument with you - my thoughts went kinda tangential. I'm a rambler - not a fighter.

Sony cares about us more then you think oniyide. :)

That's my point exactly.  While I won't argue that Sony cares less than MS and Nintendo, they certainly do not care more.  All successful corporations want to keep customers happy so as to make a profit.  Each of the 3 companies have different ways and ideas about how this should be done, but "caring for gamers" directly has NOTHING to do with it.  I suppose it would come down to which strategies resonate with an individual.  For example, if Sony's ideas appeal to a specific person, then said person may be inclined to beleive that Sony cares more about them than either MS or Nintendo when (in fact) none of the 3 do.

You've written a great wall and my time is slim as you've noticed because we've had our squabbles, discussions (call 'em what you will) in the past. The FACT of the matter is Nintendo and Sony both give a damn about investing in gaming more than Microsoft. If this wasn't true and Sony was so far out of touch with people who game they would've never hit the ground  running during the launch of the first Playstation. Microsoft could not mirror such accolades and they still haven't. The difference that exists between Sony and  Nintendo though my friend is that Nintendo gives you the same characters with new experiences  each gen, and Sony gives new experiences with new characters each gen (with the old characters coming up once in a while to say hello). There is no dependence, and nothing can prove this point any better than Sony launching their own version of Super Smash Bros t (oh I wish for the day) . The amount of high profile characters Sony put on the map is staggering. 

For the record Sony had a gaming drought only for a year or year and a half at best (depending on your complaint) not two years. Sony has been pumping out classic titles which represent he PS3 since the console launched. Kameo was great, but it did not define the Xbox, Perfect Dark certainly didnt either, but it took three years for a certain game known as Halo 3 to resurface in 2008, which was a year both Microsoft and Sony shined. Microsoft got their one and only to launch and Sony got the first title to launch that would boost their console sales through the roof in MGS4 in june of 2008. The biggest problem now my friend is that the first party titles are drying up  (in a sea of third party titles) and the exclusives are starting to show their exhaust this is where the PS3 gained its true value as a console. As the years keep rolling on the Xbox 360 will keep turning into the living room cable box and the PS3 will keep getting more games. The question that everyone should be asking is the way the 360 is going out this gen, is this the way you want the 720's launch to begin? My question you would  be, do you like videogames? Thats the only question I pose if you truly believe Microsoft has done more for the gamer than Sony. Relying on third parties, investing in non-gaming, getting chummy with the UFC, acquiring skype and the various multimedia aspects doesnt prove it. All this just to prove that Xbox live is worth $60, and in the end losing focus of what the Xbox disc drive is supposed to be used for.

You dont have to like Sony exclusives. The point is who gives a damn more. Simple.

If they did, they would have never priced me out of their market. Seriously, from 1996 to 2004, I was a Sony gamer with the PS1 and PS2. At my most financially vulnerable time in my life, my college years, they released the PS3 with prices of $599.99 and $499.99 from PS3 launch until 2009. I was intrigued, but did the calculations. Why put down well over $300 when with that same amount of money I can finance several weekends of alcohol, illicit drugs, and still have enough left over to buy the latest PC game?

So a definite no. Sony does not love you for the unique individual you are. They love the money in your pocket and if you think you are getting something for free from them, then you must be really inept at managing your own finances.

If Sony wanted our money so bad they would've launched an inferior PS3 at a lower price like the Wii and at every E3 since launch show tallies of how much money they've made hand over fist for half of their broadcast. They started out at a loss saving Blu Ray, which was new tech  we couldn't afford and gave  it to us at a below market value price. They were bleeding financially in the beginning but reaped the rewards later. I used to bitch and moan like everyone else, and trust me I didnt touch a PS3 until it reached $299, but once I got it and used Blu Rays, I stopped using DVD's, and got to enjoy the Library of games which I still haven't finished because of college. No company loves us for the individual we are. The question is who cares more for the gamer. The gamer. The only answer to that question is basically the company that ispumping out more games for its userbase and show it as a prime focus.

wheres 8 days, agent, syphon filter, getaway, gorilla nation, also i dont believe sony would of lost so much fan base if multiple past and present 3rd party exclusive games didnt go multi like gta, RE, DMC, tomb raider tekken, FF, and assassins creed