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Beyond3D Posters are more knowledge-able and are superior to you. That's my explanation.

Plus you are obviously biased or uninformed  since you are touting the possibility of a Wii-to PS360 gap with your N64 -> Xbox nonsense.

*Insert post full of facepalms here in honor of this thread*

I get a lot of my information from Beyond3D, there are lot of knowlagable industry pros on there, very interesting discussion. You are clearly missinformed if you think that a console launched in late 2013 can't offer a standard console generational leap of 8-10x the capabilities of the last. In fact if MS and Sony don't offer such a leap they will need to also bring a Wii style change in input as consumers are unlikely to think that a new console that just offers PS360 level games in 1080p and 30fps is worth investing in the next generation especially as the current generation is not going anywhere.

As Carmak said 

"The next-generation will be here soon, in a couple of years. That's going to be that much farther beyond that. It'll be another ten times as powerful as this. I'd be surprised if that doesn't last over a decade before people wind up saying, well, we've really tapped out everything you could possibly do on there."

"The other thing you fight is, the better games get the harder you have to go to give a delta people care about. That's going to be a challenge for the next-generation of consoles, to show that the pack-in title is going to look more awesome than what you get on the current ones that people will want to go spend $300 on a new console.

They'll be able to do it on the next generation, but it's going to be much harder. And whether it's even possible another generation after that is an open question. There are lots of valid reasons to like a stable platform, to be able to have stable skill sets and tool sets to be able to build things in a controlled way without that terrifying jump."

Even a full 8-10x leap may not offer an average gamer enough of a percived leap over this generation to be worth switching. Especially as current gen consoles won't be going away any time soon. Especially with the Wii U offering publishers an extra platform to offer ports on making that the lowest common denominator allowing them to continue making games at the current level. The  Wii may have shown that the majority don't really care about advanced graphics but that was only by offering something that you couldn't get anywhere else, as tablets grow ever more powerful and support gamepads and offer TV output. Kinect 2.0 will not sell the Xbox next as most consumers will be happy with the 360 kinect and Move has done little to nothing for Sony. So basically if MS and Sony launch consoles that are not a Xbox to 360 leap at least then they will crash and burn as they will offer consumers little reason to upgrade and that will mean 3rd party publishers won't make the leap, leaving it up to exclusives to sell the next consoles a battle that Nintendo would win, Sony and MS are not going to let Nintendo win like that, if they are not willing to make the generation leap in power then they might as well just not launch new consoles as current generation consoles are still selling. The aim of next generation consoles is to offer new experainces that can't be done on the existing one and a slight leap in proccessing power won't be enough.  

Whether MS and Sony like it or not they don't really have much choice in the matter, half leaps have only worked out well in the past once and that was the Wii, MS and Sony would be stupid to try and recreate that magic. 

Also you are contradicting yourself before you claimed you didn't think that a true generation leap in power was impossible but now you are emplying that I am ininformed to think that such a leap is possible...

You have got to be joking.  I'm a big Sony/PS3 supporter and own both Killzone 2 and 3, both of which I feel are the two best looking FPSs on console.  While GG tried their best to get close to those trailers, they are definitely nowhere near being better than that trailer.  Facial animation, the scale of the city and battle, poly count and texture detail are all better in that trailer than in the real game.  There is a reason why there was controversy when both Motorstorm and Killzone 2 were actually released, but it had nothing to do with the graphics being better than what was shown at E3 '05.

It may not bring success in terms of of sales wise but it will definitely bring success in terms of consumer satisfaction.

I did not contradict myself.

You are uninformed because of your statement about the possibility of a N64 to Xbox gap between Wii U and and PS4/720. That's bullshit and far from the worst case scenario.  The other thing was your comment about Wii U being a DC to Xbox gap and that's  if Sony and MS were conservative.

You sound just like those annoying fanboys you meet all over the net who started gaming this gen and think that all Nintendo can do is extremely underpowered hardware like Wii despite it being obvious a Wii-like strategy is not their goal next gen. It's like pre-wii never happened and Wii is the console to judge all future Nintendo consoles by.

But whatever, I need to stop wasting my time on these kind of online arguments.

Wait, the whole ''having the most powerful hardware on the market'' strategy has been failing miserably for the better part of a decade and they're going to stick with it? Dear god is this a race to go out of business? Does this company dispise money? What are they on? I sincerely hope that this isn't true.

The Wii U is not an entirely unknown quantity, devs who have worked with the hardware have said it is arround as powerful as the Xbox 360/PS3 that is not a fanboy oh Nintendo only make underpowered hardware rant that is bassed on what actual devs and all known data suggests. In fact Nintendo themselves have said  "We're very sensitive, of course, to trying to do all of this at an appropriate price. So I don't know that we would be able to sit here and say that it's going to necessarily dramatically outperform the systems that are out now. It's part of the balance that we strike in terms of trying to find entertainment that is new and unique." so it's not like I am trolling Nintendo here. 

And given that MS and Sony will almost certainly offer a true generation leap then a N64 to PS2 leap is likely, more likely than even a Dreamcast to xbox leap. Hell given the history of Sony it is possible that they will try and use the PS4 to push 4K TVs and even for upscaling from 1080p+ native will require at least a 9x leap in power to make it look nice at solid framerates. And given that MS design hardware arround what developers want they will likely be using Epic's Samaritan tech demo as the target for their console which is talking arround a 8x leap. By 2013 the Xbox will be 8 years old, they managed to make a generational leap from Xbox to 360 in just 5, the tech is there to make it happen. And then there is Crytech have said they want a 10x leap MINIMUM next gen and they would prefer something like 16x the GPU power of current consoles and at least 8GB of RAM if they are going to offer a true generation leap in graphics with CGI movie level graphics, while that is outragous and will not happen unless the consoles launch late 2015 at the earliest it should give an indecation of the kind of leap some big developers are pushing for. Also do you really think that NaughtyDog would be scared of moving to the next generation if was only a Dreamcast to PS3 size leap?

Bad move for Sony. If they show PS4 what will they do with the time of PS3, Vita and PSP at E3.
It's alright for Microsoft but Sony they got to wait til next year cause Jack Tretton already stated that they won't show PS4. Maybe because WiiU and 720 already have dates predicted that accurate they want to roll it out but bad move it will be rushed and then they lose money on all of it.

Like really does it matter if you start late a generation no. Plus what is Sony gonna do with the upcoming PS3 exclusive games and Vita exclusive games if they must show PS4. Idiot they are.

It ok for Microsoft since all I can think of is Halo 4. But Sony they have Vita Launch and couple games and PS3 Last of Us, Title Fight(Lame), Twisted Metal, and some others.