Sounds like PSM is afraid of going out of business due to possible shift in base to the next gen Xbox, so they'd better throw some rumors and hype out there while they can!

I'm also guessing Wii U will be underpowered compared to the other two. It's releasing earlier than the other two consoles, probably by 18 months, the fact that they called it "Wii U" is a pretty damn big giveaway that they aren't going to change their strategy or their target audience much.

Didn't you and I already have this conversation? You are being patently and willfully disngenuous, here. Cut it out.

I like your fanboy vision but for me it's essential that two of the three nexgen consoles are hardcore powerful and not casual because all my favorite franchises are multiplatform (Elder Scrolls, Creed, Fallout, Battelfield, Half Life, Dark Souls, Bioshock, Dragan Age, Red Dead and so on) and i really really want their next iterations to look next gen.

Listen, jsut because Bethesda lets themselves be tethered by the ancient console architecture, so much so that their PC games suffer for it, doesn't mean the others necessarily will. Rest assured that the Half-Life games do not depend on console architecture at all, and the best version of Battlefield won't either (just like it didn't this gen).

We did? I honestly don't remember. And Im sorry if I previously admitted that there's a possibility for the Wii to be more than 3 times faster than a X260. Did I?

In a roundabout way. Remember? Obviously the 360 is only 3 times more powerful than the PS2 or Xbox, based on all those barely-upgraded multiplats it got early on.

Look, all multiplatform games are the same game on consoles and PC. The only difference is the ability to crank up resolution, AF, AA, framerate and the occasional meaningless shadow/lighting effect. Architectire, polygons and lots of essential stuff that is the difference maker between generations are left unchanged from console to PC version.

This includes Battlefield 3 despite all the promices by DICE to take advantage of the PC, Just watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1LSRDTJryo

Realistically, since we have no confirmed information on the Wii U and we have far less information on the other next generation consoles, can we stop this moronic discussion on which console will be more powerful?

With how this past generation played out it is highly likely that each manufacturer is going to adjust/change their strategy to increase sales, improve profits and/or attract third party support.



Hypothetically speaking, if Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft were given the opportunity to re-do this generation I wouldn't be surprised to see Nintendo release a system that was 2 to 4 times as powerful as the Wii to attract more (cross platform) third party support, Microsoft to release a system that was 50% to 75% as powerful as the XBox 360 was to reduce upfront losses and eliminate the RROD, and Sony to release a drastically less "technically impressive" console to get the system's sale price down to $300 to $400.

The "Baggage" of what companies should have done will weigh heavily on their minds when they're planning for the next generation. Nintendo probably thought that the Gamecube struggled because it was so similar to the PS2 and XBox (from a hardware perspective) and focused on making a system that was drastically different than the competition, Microsoft was probably motivated by all of the struggles they had with hardware suppliers and noticed how well Nintendo's strategy with the Gamecube worked out for them and adopted Nintendo's approach, and Sony may have thought that the success of the PS2 meant that duplicating the approach but making everything "better" was a way to increase their success.

Why I bring this up is it seems like people are assuming that each company will take the exact same approach and end up with the exact same results as we had in this generation. I just don't see this as being likely ...

Oh, now I remember. I admitted that I erroneously used the upcoming current-gen multiplatform games to the Wii U such as Assassin's Creed and Aliens Colonial Marines as an argument that the Wii U is hardly stronger than the X360. But I believe I also said that I instead was leaning on the rumors that the Wii U is using a GPU equivalent to a Radeon 4850, which is rufly 3 times stronger than the GPU in the X360.