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I love history. I've always had debates about this question with my professors.

I'll tally votes here in the OP. Mine goes to Tsubodai/Subutei of the Mongolian empire.

When we talk about commanders, we don't mean like the kings who order their armies to fight an enemy. I'm talking about the field generals who actually applied the tactics and strategy directly. Genghis Khan and his son Ogedai relied almost solely on Tsubodai for the expansion of his empire. Nobody could stop him; not muslims with their war elephants, not walled cities, not chinese cannon, not armies five times larger than his, not even the famed knights of Teuton or the Templars. Tsubodai's leadership was extraordinary in that no army, no matter how large, could beat him because of his modern command style that was unheard of in his time.

Most of all, the true measure of a commander is in his ability to conquer and succeed. A lot of people will mention people like Hannibal or Napoleon. Unfortunately, these guys failed in their conquests. They lost. Tsubodai never failed. In fact, the only reason he stopped the invasion of Europe was that Ogedai had died, and everyone had to return to Mongolia to elect a new Khan. If he hadn't stopped, then Europe would have been completely destroyed and our society now would be speaking and reading Mongolian or Chinese characters. How do we know this? En route, he actually destroyed Hungarian armies three times the size of his own that fielded the very best of Europe: The German Teutonic Knights and the Knights Templar. They were no match for his horse archers. Sadly for the Mongol empire, the khans just couldn't get along and decide on a ruler of the whole nation. Tsubodai retired after Ogedai died and so their empire fell apart.



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Patton. Both for his military command and his overall attitude.



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To me it would be a tie between Napoleon and Stalin. I know that Stalin wasnt a military leader in the real sense, but never the less it brought back a nation from brink of destruction, to its most glorious form ever.

Caesar and Alexander The Great where also military masterminds, tough I like to argue that a post US civil-war era military is far harder to control, then an old one. Its simply a far more complex entity



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Ike.

From Fire Emblem. He overthrew the entire world and even the goddess with just a handful of people.

And he fights for his friends! That's very admirable. He even says it over and over in Super Smash Brothers.



Pretty easy.

Sun Tzu.

He influenced some of the greatest generals through The Art of War. Napoleon. Mao. Vo Nuygen Gap. Ho Chi Minh. No general has ever achieved such a legacy.

For contemporaries, though, Patton and Zhukov are right up there. I also like Rommel as well, but he was given a very raw deal in WW2.



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leatherhat said:
Patton. Both for his military command and his overall attitude.


This. Hands down.



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How about Hannibal?



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amp316 said:
How about Hannibal?


That's a good call. Certainly one of the best commanders in ancient history. But, I'd have to add Scipio Africanus, who finally defeated Hannibal and drove him back to Carthage.



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