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MontanaHatchet said:
Acevil said:
MontanaHatchet said:
KillerMan said:
I can't believe some people are seriously saying that these are bad numbers. Yes less than 3DS launch but did you know that 3DS is successor to the best selling console ever in Japan? These are good launch numbers.


I think this is what a lot of people are forgetting. It's also worth noting that the 3DS launched with a Layton game, whereas the Vita's biggest title in Japan is Hot Shots Golf. Ultimately, we'll have to see how the Vita's sales pan out over the next year or so. I think Sony really designed the Vita to be relevant over the next decade even if it's not a big seller initially. Still, it would have been nice to have Monster Hunter as a launch title.


However the time of the year is another factor. 3DS did launch in Feburary which is typically not that great for sales, while Vita launched in the shopping season in Japan. I am not saying these are bad numbers or 3DS did bad, I am saying that if you compare two, you should account all other important factors.  

I don't think launching in the holiday season is necessarily a benefit. I'm not sure which system had the largest launch ever, but the GBA had a massive launch (721,000) in Japan in March 2001. The PS2 sold 595k (almost 600k!) in March 2000. It may not be a definite trend, but it seems like the more successful systems have launched in Q1. For comparison, the Wii launched to about 400k in November of 2006.


Nintendo Wii problem was more of supply issues in the end, as we saw many times that launch year with Nintendo. However sales of hardware is typically up in Japan in December due to consumer spending being higher. Given good software and loyal fanbase will always be more valuable, but I believe usually the holiday season is a plus. Given it could be argued that 3DS right now in the state that it is (3-4 blockbuster titles in the course of a month), is heavy competition for the vita device.

PS: Did sony release projected number of sales for the fiscal year?



 

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The 3DS failed to sell 321K for 32 out of 43 weeks since its launch.



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MontanaHatchet said:
Acevil said:
MontanaHatchet said:
KillerMan said:
I can't believe some people are seriously saying that these are bad numbers. Yes less than 3DS launch but did you know that 3DS is successor to the best selling console ever in Japan? These are good launch numbers.


I think this is what a lot of people are forgetting. It's also worth noting that the 3DS launched with a Layton game, whereas the Vita's biggest title in Japan is Hot Shots Golf. Ultimately, we'll have to see how the Vita's sales pan out over the next year or so. I think Sony really designed the Vita to be relevant over the next decade even if it's not a big seller initially. Still, it would have been nice to have Monster Hunter as a launch title.


However the time of the year is another factor. 3DS did launch in Feburary which is typically not that great for sales, while Vita launched in the shopping season in Japan. I am not saying these are bad numbers or 3DS did bad, I am saying that if you compare two, you should account all other important factors.  

I don't think launching in the holiday season is necessarily a benefit. I'm not sure which system had the largest launch ever, but the GBA had a massive launch (721,000) in Japan in March 2001. The PS2 sold 595k (almost 600k!) in March 2000. It may not be a definite trend, but it seems like the more successful systems have launched in Q1. For comparison, the Wii launched to about 400k in November of 2006.


Just a correction. The PS2 sold 980,000 in its first two days on sales back on March 4th to 5th 2000.

http://archive.gamespy.com/articles/february04/PS2timeline/index2.shtml



Tridrakious said:
MontanaHatchet said:


Just a correction. The PS2 sold 980,000 in its first two days on sales back on March 4th to 5th 2000.

http://archive.gamespy.com/articles/february04/PS2timeline/index2.shtml


I was going off Vgchartz numbers, which I'm guessing covers one day instead of two. Either way, it had incredible launch numbers in what is normally a slow sales period.



 

 

crissindahouse said:

i think in japan they don'tlook so much at graphics (maybe i'm wrong with this) so i don't wonder 3ds sold better but i think in europe and usa many people look at graphics and there the vita could sell very good.

and omg, the game gear was huge haha

 


Given how the DS outsold the PSP by a large margin I highly doubt others are that interested in graphics. I'm sure there are some but not significant, it all comes down to games.



 

        

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Blacksaber said:
Tridrakious said:
Isn't Monster Hunter 3DS just a port of a port?

Wouldn't a brand new Monster Hunter for Vita make much more of an impact than that?


And they are getting MH4....


I forgot about Monster Hunter 4. I wonder how much Nintendo spent to get Monster Hunter?



theprof00 said:

You're limiting yourself if you don't think call of duty will sell consoles.

Unique games are not the real system sellers. Big superficial clones and brands are what sell,

and what with the connectivity and remote play, gamers will be able to play call of duty when dad is watching the game. Vita and ps3 have a connectivity on a similar level as what wiiU is supposed to have. Granted, vita doesn't have it yet, but it's more than capable.

Furthermore, disidea and monster hunter are not system movers, sure they sell games, but someone who is into monster hunter already buys a system for it.
Look at the sales, the highest selling psp game is GTA, a game that is available on consoles. next highest is monster hunter unite, then another gta, then monster hunter 3, a game available on the wii.

Then a long list of games that are either ports or multiplatforms, or spinoffs of games available on consoles.

I know three people, Marvel/Capcom addicts, who want to buy a Vita JUST for MvC:Ultimate to play on the bus, or when someone else is playing on the tv.
A call of duty game on psp sold better than littlebigplanet. A call of duty game is the 16th best selling game on the system...a system with one analog. Why do people buy call of duty 5 times, already? Every version is the same thing, and they come out nearly every year. To add onto that point, you can play CoD on your vita using remote play, you don't need to buy it twice. You buy a vita for the games that are on it, in addition to all those ps2/1 games you've downloaded, and to play your ps3 when you don't have access to the tv. You can even do remote play over internet, so you could go to university, leave your ps3 on at home, and play your ps3 over your university's wifi network...on your vita.

Your thought process is mostly logical though, so I can't really fault you for it. Unique games BECOME big games. Everything was once a unique game, even pokemon. But the problem is that the success rate of unique games is far lower than you think. There are lots of great unique games that never really hit the mark. Little King's Story, Odin Sphere, Valyria Chronicles, Suikoden series, Folklore, Earth Defense Force. For every big successful unique game there are a ten others that simply never make it due to competition, a hundred others that never make it because they're too niche, and a thousand others that never even get the recognition they deserve.

I mean, even as you noted yourself that they need disidea and monster hunter. Those aren't unique games anymore. They are big franchises.


This are the sales of the week where MH3P was released http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40517/Japan/ There is a 300%+ increase in HW sales, with no other major relase on the PSP one can only wonder.

I may be wrong about the second bold, but they are quite different games. I don't think that people would've stopped buying the PSP version if they already had the Wii version.



MontanaHatchet said:
Tridrakious said:
MontanaHatchet said:


Just a correction. The PS2 sold 980,000 in its first two days on sales back on March 4th to 5th 2000.

http://archive.gamespy.com/articles/february04/PS2timeline/index2.shtml


I was going off Vgchartz numbers, which I'm guessing covers one day instead of two. Either way, it had incredible launch numbers in what is normally a slow sales period.


I apologize for jumping into the conversation. I just wanted to make sure everything was known.



Tridrakious said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Tridrakious said:
MontanaHatchet said:


Just a correction. The PS2 sold 980,000 in its first two days on sales back on March 4th to 5th 2000.

http://archive.gamespy.com/articles/february04/PS2timeline/index2.shtml


I was going off Vgchartz numbers, which I'm guessing covers one day instead of two. Either way, it had incredible launch numbers in what is normally a slow sales period.


I apologize for jumping into the conversation. I just wanted to make sure everything was known.


Hey, no problem. Do you know if the PS2 had the largest launch of all time in Japan, or was that the GBA?



 

 

Good for Sony, I would buy one, but none of the games already announced interest me or I already played them like Ninja Gaiden or Disgaea 3. I have slight interest in Gravity Rush and Sumioni.