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disolitude on 20 December 2011
Train wreck said:
I feel sorry for all Nokia supporters as the stock now is under 5$, pretty much a penny stock. Nokia glory days are well behind it and I wouldn't be surprised that they either go bankrupt or be bought out by this time next year as they can no longer support themselves as a going concern. Late entry with the lumia, will be outdated once it hits the states, margins being eroded by Chinese manufactures such as ZTE and Huawei. Nokia like BB got comfortable with their marketshare lead and did not innovate.

So I guess news like this (as false as it is), is one of the only saving graces.

I've not seen doom and gloom prediction like this in quite some time.

Also I believe US is getting Lumia 900 and not 800, which according to rumored specs is much beefier than Lumia 800.



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MDMAniac on 20 December 2011

disolitude said:

The fact you mention "SMS vulnerability" on Windows Phone is quite hillarious, espeicially since you are a big Android supporter which gets new dangerous SMS malware problems every week. The SMS issue on the windows phone you're refering to disables the messaging hub if you decide to enter a rediculous amount of characters in to an SMS message, in a specific order.  Good luck trying to figure out what the characters are...

http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-sms-bug-disabling-messaging-hub

Meanwhile Android phones may send expensive SMS messages to foreign countries if you download some game apps.

http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/more-malware-found-in-android-market/20996/


Your post was all good until you called me a big Android supporter, lol. Try again, and try not to start with Crapple.

Next, you could counter battery issue argument in the same way, calling Android itself for eating batteries

Now, as we cleared up both things and it turned out WP7 is really #1... GOSH IT DEFINITELY GONNA SELL SHITLOADZ NOW!!! :dance: 

 



MDMAniac on 20 December 2011
Train wreck said:
Nokia glory days are well behind it and I wouldn't be surprised that they either go bankrupt or be bought out by this time next year as they can no longer support themselves as a going concern.


Despite all PR mumbling, Elop is well-positioning Nokia to become MS assets soon. MS will buy their patents and smartphone division (like what Google did with Motorola Mobility), while dumbphones and NSN are for sell-off. Then MS will troll vendors even harder.

And Mr I'm not Trojan Horse has been doing this ever since "burning platform" memo. After all, it's the only thing he's known for (*cough*macromedia*cough*).



disolitude on 20 December 2011
MDMAniac said:

disolitude said:

The fact you mention "SMS vulnerability" on Windows Phone is quite hillarious, espeicially since you are a big Android supporter which gets new dangerous SMS malware problems every week. The SMS issue on the windows phone you're refering to disables the messaging hub if you decide to enter a rediculous amount of characters in to an SMS message, in a specific order.  Good luck trying to figure out what the characters are...

http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-sms-bug-disabling-messaging-hub

Meanwhile Android phones may send expensive SMS messages to foreign countries if you download some game apps.

http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/more-malware-found-in-android-market/20996/


Your post was all good until you called me a big Android supporter, lol. Try again, and try not to start with Crapple.

Next, you could counter battery issue argument in the same way, calling Android itself for eating batteries

Now, as we cleared up both things and it turned out WP7 is really #1... GOSH IT DEFINITELY GONNA SELL SHITLOADZ NOW!!! :dance: 

 

If WP selling makes you happy, I am happy for you.

I really don't care if it does. I have no money invested in Nokia or Microsoft and own an Iphone 4, Motorolla Droid as well as 2 LG windows phones. Out of those I use my WP's the most but will switch is a second if Google or Crapple provides me with something I need that others don't...

I was just pointing out the contradiction in your post...saying that small SMS bug may hold WP back while a much more serious bug is helping sell Androids?

BTW...are you a former Symbian developer? If you don't like Crapple, Android or WP, thats the only option I can think of... :)



Euphoria14 on 20 December 2011
famousringo said:
Euphoria14 said:

Yes, I understand that, but I still think that there are others more suited for "Best Manufacturer" besides Apple.

There are companies out there that not only design their products, but also build the parts for it are there not?

Are there not other companies that not only design and build their own product, but also build products for their competitors?

 

I just disagree with how they may have come to their conclusion of Apple being the top dog in that category.

 

Who knows, I may be competely wrong in what I am saying and they are basing this entirely off of Apple and their iOS, considering how most Android OS are not much more than modified code given by Google? Apple unlike Samsung, HTC, etc... created their OS by themselves.

Samsung and HTC do a fair amount of development on their custom UIs, built-in apps, and integrating their hardware with the software. If a little tweaking of the Android source was all that was required, I would think official Android software updates would not be such a rare thing.

But for an award like "Best Manufacturer", they're probably going off of things like build quality, product support, maybe reliability and customer satisfaction. Apple's big advantage here is the support network provided in Apple stores.

I was always under the impression that updates were only a rare thing to Samsung customers.



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famousringo on 20 December 2011
Euphoria14 said:

I was always under the impression that updates were only a rare thing to Samsung customers.


I'd put Samsung down as the worst offender, especially since they somehow managed to screw up WP7 updates, but pretty much all of the Android vendors are lacklustre:

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support

A couple disclaimers on that link:

1. It's iOS and Android only. WP7 doesn't have enough history to measure and Symbian's kinda non-existant in the US, but I wish he'd thrown a couple Blackberries in the mix.

2. It's US-only. It could be that similar models sold in other markets have seen better support... or worse. Also, you won't see Symbian or Bada showing up on the list for that reason.

 

If you want good, official software support on an Android device, buy the latest Nexus whatever. If you can't for whatever reason, HTC is the least worst when it comes to support. If you buy Samsung or Motorola... I hope you like rooting devices!



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dallas on 23 December 2011

if windows phone is so great, then MS wouldn't have had to have a huge moneyhat deal with nokia



disolitude on 23 December 2011
dallas said:
if windows phone is so great, then MS wouldn't have had to have a huge moneyhat deal with nokia

This comment didn't do you any favors when it comes to peoples perception of your intelligence level.



ArnoldRimmer on 23 December 2011
selnor said:

You know whats even worse than posting news in a shady light?

People assuming yo did it on purpose.

Some people here remind me of the customers I get into work.

I posted the articles before I actually read them. For which I would have had a different title in hindsigt. I simply posted them as soon as I saw them.

But its ok, because I actually have a life outside of 'thinking' I'm bigger than the users here and am fully happy with the knowledge I should have read the articles through first.

Shoot first ask later, thats the internet way. ;)

You do realise where articles are concerned I dont have a track record for twisting the facts.

Well maybe it's true, maybe you didn't even read the article - but then I seriously have to wonder: What's your motivation for creating a whole new thread to report on an article you didn't even read? Furthermore, if it wasn't on purpose and you really simply didn't realize how false/misleading the thread title and the first posting is, why didn't you at least meanwhile correct it, now that you know?

Whenever I see a thread created by you, I instantly expect it to be full of enthusiasm for some product by Microsoft. And you hardly ever fail to match that expectation. The only explanation I can think of is that as long as on first sight a story seems to be in favor of Microsoft, you don't care about the actual facts, but you will still consider it worth posting.



disolitude on 23 December 2011
ArnoldRimmer said:

Whenever I see a thread created by you, I instantly expect it to be full of enthusiasm for some product by Microsoft. And you hardly ever fail to match that expectation. The only explanation I can think of is that as long as on first sight a story seems to be in favor of Microsoft, you don't care about the actual facts, but you will still consider it worth posting.

I find that its kinda fun.

Any time I see an enthusiastic Microsoft thread, I ask "Is this a Selnor thread...Why yes it is!" And then I make popcron, cause one thing people don't like is Microsoft enthusiasm.