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disolitude on 24 December 2011
MDMAniac said:
disolitude said:

No one here is saying Windows Phone is burning up the sales charts (except maybe Selnor), however people that use them tend to like them...a lot.

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-phone-tops-in-user-satisfaction?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Uh, don't start with that "survey", the whole thing is full of BS. Or, you should have quoted BB is also better than both iOS and Android.

 


Surveys have nothing to do with how good a phone is...Its how happy the users using that phone are. 



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MDMAniac on 24 December 2011
disolitude said:
MDMAniac said:

disolitude said:

The fact you mention "SMS vulnerability" on Windows Phone is quite hillarious, espeicially since you are a big Android supporter which gets new dangerous SMS malware problems every week. The SMS issue on the windows phone you're refering to disables the messaging hub if you decide to enter a rediculous amount of characters in to an SMS message, in a specific order.  Good luck trying to figure out what the characters are...

http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-sms-bug-disabling-messaging-hub

Meanwhile Android phones may send expensive SMS messages to foreign countries if you download some game apps.

http://www.mobilebusinessbriefing.com/articles/more-malware-found-in-android-market/20996/


Your post was all good until you called me a big Android supporter, lol. Try again, and try not to start with Crapple.

Next, you could counter battery issue argument in the same way, calling Android itself for eating batteries

Now, as we cleared up both things and it turned out WP7 is really #1... GOSH IT DEFINITELY GONNA SELL SHITLOADZ NOW!!! :dance: 

 

If WP selling makes you happy, I am happy for you.

I really don't care if it does. I have no money invested in Nokia or Microsoft and own an Iphone 4, Motorolla Droid as well as 2 LG windows phones. Out of those I use my WP's the most but will switch is a second if Google or Crapple provides me with something I need that others don't...

I was just pointing out the contradiction in your post...saying that small SMS bug may hold WP back while a much more serious bug is helping sell Androids?

BTW...are you a former Symbian developer? If you don't like Crapple, Android or WP, thats the only option I can think of... :)

 

No contradiction. Android is not in position to "prove" itself in the market, WP is. And actually you seem to undervalue the vulnerability of WP7. You totally lose SMS functionality, untill you do HARD reset. Yeah, "small bug".

As for my mobile preferences, there are none atm. I used to like old BBs though. And classic Nokias, E61/8800/E71, were all good too. Currently I own Samsung Note, but certainly not because of Android inside the beast. More like because it came with leather case which reminds me of Moleskine, lol.



MDMAniac on 24 December 2011
disolitude said:
MDMAniac said:
disolitude said:

No one here is saying Windows Phone is burning up the sales charts (except maybe Selnor), however people that use them tend to like them...a lot.

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-phone-tops-in-user-satisfaction?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Uh, don't start with that "survey", the whole thing is full of BS. Or, you should have quoted BB is also better than both iOS and Android.

 


Surveys have nothing to do with how good a phone is...Its how happy the users using that phone are. 

 

No need to teach me on this, which I'm fully aware of.

However, as you basicaly say ppl love their BBs more than Crapples, then why BB is in decline for the last year being cheaper? And shouldn't we take such survey where BB is #2 and WP7 is #1, as a warning that WP7 will die pretty soon? :)



famousringo on 24 December 2011
MDMAniac said:

No need to teach me on this, which I'm fully aware of.

However, as you basicaly say ppl love their BBs more than Crapples, then why BB is in decline for the last year being cheaper? And shouldn't we take such survey where BB is #2 and WP7 is #1, as a warning that WP7 will die pretty soon? :)


It also diectly contradicts a JD Power user satisfaction survey which puts RIM under the industry average:

http://www.jdpower.com/news/pressRelease.aspx?ID=2011146

What the hell is Customer Think's methodology? They talk about customer reviews, and they call the HTC Thunderbolt the most reviewed smartphone of 2011! Not the iPhone 4 or the Galaxy S2. Are they just pulling this data off Amazon or something?



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 24 December 2011

You guys do understand that ALMOST EVERY Android phone that is being sold. Microsoft gets $5-10 each right??

Which basically equates to million if not billions of dollars a year...



Yay!!!

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michael_stutzer on 25 December 2011
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
You guys do understand that ALMOST EVERY Android phone that is being sold. Microsoft gets $5-10 each right??

Which basically equates to million if not billions of dollars a year...


Why should we care?

It wasn't billions of dollars, it was 450 million last year. It is much higher than what Microsoft gets from WP7 though, LOL. Even Bada has more marketshare.



Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 25 December 2011
michael_stutzer said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
You guys do understand that ALMOST EVERY Android phone that is being sold. Microsoft gets $5-10 each right??

Which basically equates to million if not billions of dollars a year...


Why should we care?

It wasn't billions of dollars, it was 450 million last year. It is much higher than what Microsoft gets from WP7 though, LOL. Even Bada has more marketshare.


Theres no reason for you to reply if you dont care.... Im just saying my opinions..



Yay!!!

michael_stutzer on 25 December 2011
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
michael_stutzer said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
You guys do understand that ALMOST EVERY Android phone that is being sold. Microsoft gets $5-10 each right??

Which basically equates to million if not billions of dollars a year...


Why should we care?

It wasn't billions of dollars, it was 450 million last year. It is much higher than what Microsoft gets from WP7 though, LOL. Even Bada has more marketshare.


Theres no reason for you to reply if you dont care.... Im just saying my opinions..


I didn't say I don't care. Your post implied that it was very important for the topic of discussion and I wondered why. 



ArnoldRimmer on 26 December 2011
dallas said:
But that's just the thing disolitude, android isn't just competing with apple for the high end, bc of the nonexistent cost and smaller space needed to store the OS , it's starting to steal the dominance in low end phones that nokia is used to having.

That's a really good point actually. One major reason why WP7 devices are not selling so great yet is because Microsofts hardware requirements for WP7 devices have been extremely high. The advantage is of course that all WP7 devices so far have high-end, top-notch hardware - the downside however is that they are high-price too, making them uninteresting for the majority of customers.

But meanwhile Microsoft is aware of this problem, they have meanwhile lowered the hardware requirements, thus allowing for somewhat cheaper devices as well.



disolitude on 26 December 2011
ArnoldRimmer said:
dallas said:
But that's just the thing disolitude, android isn't just competing with apple for the high end, bc of the nonexistent cost and smaller space needed to store the OS , it's starting to steal the dominance in low end phones that nokia is used to having.

That's a really good point actually. One major reason why WP7 devices are not selling so great yet is because Microsofts hardware requirements for WP7 devices have been extremely high. The advantage is of course that all WP7 devices so far have high-end, top-notch hardware - the downside however is that they are high-price too, making them uninteresting for the majority of customers.

But meanwhile Microsoft is aware of this problem, they have meanwhile lowered the hardware requirements, thus allowing for somewhat cheaper devices as well.


I think this was a problem at launch but these days those hardware specs aren't that high. I mean single core only, 1 ghz is pretty common, screen rez is standard and 256 ram/8GB is not that much to ask for as well.

So yeah, I don't think the specs are that high anymore. I honestly think its remarkable how smooth they are keeping the OS experience across the board after mango update, even with last gen devices like Dell Venue Pro which only have 256 megs of RAM.

I think WP7 main problem is OEM relationships/confidence and that Windows logo on the back on the phone. People have preconceived notions about that Windows logo...and rightfully so as windows phones have been very buggy in the past(windows mobile)