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pezus said:
bouzane said:
Aldro said:
bouzane said:
@Aldro

I have to say it, Snake's character model was hardly movie quality. In the third screen shot on page 4 his shoulder looks incredibly blocky. His face looks great but the polygon count on the rest of his model isn't very high.

Don't know man, maybe my love has blinded me xP. Check out this video though (set to 720p and start at 3:55 to as far as you'd like). I don't know, I honestly feel it looks good xP:

Gotta comment again. Jesus, when I watch this, It is like THIS was the game that ..started the gen for me. I mean I love cinematic games and no, I stand on my same statement. What MGS4 did, and the way it did it blew me away and till' this day; I feel it was the greatest visually and technically on consoles in 2008.

I started at 3:55; 4:01: Liquid's jacket casts low res shadow; 4:04 Solid's extremely blocky shoulder comes into full view; 4:05 Liquid's name tag looks appalling; 4:18 the shadows on the pole are completely broken; 4:37 Liquids hair clips down into his jacket. You know what, console games look like garbage and critiquing them is like nitpicking a loaf of stale bread :/

Look at the bigger picture and don't just nitpick. You could nitpick any game to pieces, even BF3 on PC.

Like beautiful animations, birds flying, dat lightning, shadows are surprisingly good imho. And then the biggest picture, the characters and how they interact and sell the whole concept.



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crissindahouse said:
Aldro said:
crissindahouse said:
pezus said:
SqueakySamurai said:

Everyone here is talking about how MGS4 was the graphics king of 08, but no one is even mentioning GTA IV or Gears of War 2.

I mentioned GTA and it looks good but it doesn't have better graphics than MGS4. Gears 2 I don't think looks like graphics king material. It just looked so...gray?

nothing against mgs but talking about the colorless gow2 is funny defending a mgs game with this. i mean for me mgs is nothing more than always green, or always green-brown
 just look at all posted pictures one site before. they are all only green (or yellow). not much color there.

I take it you have played the game though?

Act 1 = grey-green
Act 2 = green jungles
Act 3 = yellow, streets
Act 4 = white as hell, snow, metal-ish
Act 5 = Metal, amazing view on Outer haven, through halls etc.

 

The images on MGS4 does sell it as .. very.. bleh in my opinion. But when I think about MGS4, I do NOT associate it with those images xD.

 

Also, I tried to look for some Pacific Rift videos, the textures aren't sharp unfortunately. Then again I've been playing so much UC3. You be the judge:


i can post you some picture of my street and you will know what i mean. or ohh use your own window...

wow how colorful:

http://www.google.de/search?q=mgs+4&hl=de&client=firefox-a&hs=iqK&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=5arrTuCIBJDFswbDyYiRBw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CCYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=910

man i don't care just funny to try to defend mgs games and talking about colors, that's all.

That's the direction Kojima goes with MGS4 though, but it's not the lack of colors per se, its how they are presented in this "dark-ish" feel that the world is going to hell.

 

^Great picture of Naomi by the way.


Don't mind the quality, just threw in some different area pics.

 

 

The variety is there..



pezus said:
bouzane said:
Aldro said:
bouzane said:
@Aldro

I have to say it, Snake's character model was hardly movie quality. In the third screen shot on page 4 his shoulder looks incredibly blocky. His face looks great but the polygon count on the rest of his model isn't very high.

Don't know man, maybe my love has blinded me xP. Check out this video though (set to 720p and start at 3:55 to as far as you'd like). I don't know, I honestly feel it looks good xP:

Gotta comment again. Jesus, when I watch this, It is like THIS was the game that ..started the gen for me. I mean I love cinematic games and no, I stand on my same statement. What MGS4 did, and the way it did it blew me away and till' this day; I feel it was the greatest visually and technically on consoles in 2008.

I started at 3:55; 4:01: Liquid's jacket casts low res shadow; 4:04 Solid's extremely blocky shoulder comes into full view; 4:05 Liquid's name tag looks appalling; 4:18 the shadows on the pole are completely broken; 4:37 Liquids hair clips down into his jacket. You know what, console games look like garbage and critiquing them is like nitpicking a loaf of stale bread :/

Look at the bigger picture and don't just nitpick. You could nitpick any game to pieces, even BF3 on PC.

Battlefield 3 hardly looks perfect either (although much better than MGS4). I'm just saying that about every scene has issues that detract from the visuals, most notably the ever present muddy environmental textures and extremely poor light rendering. It's hardly nitpicking when you are reminded of the aforementioned shortcomings every ten seconds.



bouzane said:
pezus said:
bouzane said:
Aldro said:
bouzane said:
@Aldro

I have to say it, Snake's character model was hardly movie quality. In the third screen shot on page 4 his shoulder looks incredibly blocky. His face looks great but the polygon count on the rest of his model isn't very high.

Don't know man, maybe my love has blinded me xP. Check out this video though (set to 720p and start at 3:55 to as far as you'd like). I don't know, I honestly feel it looks good xP:

Gotta comment again. Jesus, when I watch this, It is like THIS was the game that ..started the gen for me. I mean I love cinematic games and no, I stand on my same statement. What MGS4 did, and the way it did it blew me away and till' this day; I feel it was the greatest visually and technically on consoles in 2008.

I started at 3:55; 4:01: Liquid's jacket casts low res shadow; 4:04 Solid's extremely blocky shoulder comes into full view; 4:05 Liquid's name tag looks appalling; 4:18 the shadows on the pole are completely broken; 4:37 Liquids hair clips down into his jacket. You know what, console games look like garbage and critiquing them is like nitpicking a loaf of stale bread :/

Look at the bigger picture and don't just nitpick. You could nitpick any game to pieces, even BF3 on PC.

Battlefield 3 hardly looks perfect either (although much better than MGS4). I'm just saying that about every scene has issues that detract from the visuals, most notably the ever present muddy environmental textures and extremely poor light rendering. It's hardly nitpicking when you are reminded of the aforementioned shortcomings every ten seconds.



Im going to look on reviews and see what they said about MGS4.

Hold on mate.

 

IGN OVR GOTY - "Still, what undoubtedly impressed fans when they first booted up the game in June was how damn good this thing looked. Your opening mission moves from a dust and sand-laden cinema to dust and sand-laden environment. Snake's new sneaking suit looked slick, the maps were detailed, and Naomi's blouse was (thankfully) devoid of buttons. Throughout Metal Gear's time in the disc drive, gamers were treated to a land of visual delights."

 

IGN review - "Incredibly detailed and visually breathtaking, with amazing camera angles, MGS4 is one of the most beautiful titles ever made."

 

Giantbomb review - "There are sequences here that come close to fulfilling the promises of Sony’s famously overblown Killzone 2 trailer, in terms of their visual fidelity and the intensity of the action. I honestly had to remind myself more than once I was playing a video game and not a CG movie."

 

Gamereactor review - "Pure graphically, MGS4 is very, very, very beautiful with fantastic character models, amazing vibrant color and wonderful lightning. Its missing a little regarding the texture- and animation part but pure generally, this is one if not the greatest looking games on the PS3." 2008.. the standard was really low compared to now, really.

 

I just wanted to see if the critics said anything in particular, but no. I was around then. MGS4 was truly mind blowing for me in 08.



Aldro said:
bouzane said:
pezus said:
bouzane said:
Aldro said:
bouzane said:
@Aldro

I have to say it, Snake's character model was hardly movie quality. In the third screen shot on page 4 his shoulder looks incredibly blocky. His face looks great but the polygon count on the rest of his model isn't very high.

Don't know man, maybe my love has blinded me xP. Check out this video though (set to 720p and start at 3:55 to as far as you'd like). I don't know, I honestly feel it looks good xP:

Gotta comment again. Jesus, when I watch this, It is like THIS was the game that ..started the gen for me. I mean I love cinematic games and no, I stand on my same statement. What MGS4 did, and the way it did it blew me away and till' this day; I feel it was the greatest visually and technically on consoles in 2008.

I started at 3:55; 4:01: Liquid's jacket casts low res shadow; 4:04 Solid's extremely blocky shoulder comes into full view; 4:05 Liquid's name tag looks appalling; 4:18 the shadows on the pole are completely broken; 4:37 Liquids hair clips down into his jacket. You know what, console games look like garbage and critiquing them is like nitpicking a loaf of stale bread :/

Look at the bigger picture and don't just nitpick. You could nitpick any game to pieces, even BF3 on PC.

Battlefield 3 hardly looks perfect either (although much better than MGS4). I'm just saying that about every scene has issues that detract from the visuals, most notably the ever present muddy environmental textures and extremely poor light rendering. It's hardly nitpicking when you are reminded of the aforementioned shortcomings every ten seconds.



Im going to look on reviews and see what they said about MGS4.

Hold on mate.

 

IGN OVR GOTY - "Still, what undoubtedly impressed fans when they first booted up the game in June was how damn good this thing looked. Your opening mission moves from a dust and sand-laden cinema to dust and sand-laden environment. Snake's new sneaking suit looked slick, the maps were detailed, and Naomi's blouse was (thankfully) devoid of buttons. Throughout Metal Gear's time in the disc drive, gamers were treated to a land of visual delights."

 

IGN review - "Incredibly detailed and visually breathtaking, with amazing camera angles, MGS4 is one of the most beautiful titles ever made."

 

Giantbomb review - "There are sequences here that come close to fulfilling the promises of Sony’s famously overblown Killzone 2 trailer, in terms of their visual fidelity and the intensity of the action. I honestly had to remind myself more than once I was playing a video game and not a CG movie."

 

Gamereactor review - "Pure graphically, MGS4 is very, very, very beautiful with fantastic character models, amazing vibrant color and wonderful lightning. Its missing a little regarding the texture- and animation part but pure generally, this is one if not the greatest looking games on the PS3." 2008.. the standard was really low compared to now, really.

 

I just wanted to see if the critics said anything in particular, but no. I was around then. MGS4 was truly mind blowing for me in 08.

Sorry but the critics unanimously failed to criticize GTAIV. I remember when I booted up MGS4 for the first time and my friend Drew criticized the graphics almost as much as the story :/

@pezus

You don't play many PC games do you? Battlefield 3's engine has some serious issues and the overall production values fall short of games like Crysis and Metro 2033.



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Aldro said:
crissindahouse said:
Aldro said:
crissindahouse said:
pezus said:
SqueakySamurai said:

Everyone here is talking about how MGS4 was the graphics king of 08, but no one is even mentioning GTA IV or Gears of War 2.

I mentioned GTA and it looks good but it doesn't have better graphics than MGS4. Gears 2 I don't think looks like graphics king material. It just looked so...gray?

nothing against mgs but talking about the colorless gow2 is funny defending a mgs game with this. i mean for me mgs is nothing more than always green, or always green-brown
 just look at all posted pictures one site before. they are all only green (or yellow). not much color there.

I take it you have played the game though?

Act 1 = grey-green
Act 2 = green jungles
Act 3 = yellow, streets
Act 4 = white as hell, snow, metal-ish
Act 5 = Metal, amazing view on Outer haven, through halls etc.

 

The images on MGS4 does sell it as .. very.. bleh in my opinion. But when I think about MGS4, I do NOT associate it with those images xD.

 

Also, I tried to look for some Pacific Rift videos, the textures aren't sharp unfortunately. Then again I've been playing so much UC3. You be the judge:

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i can post you some picture of my street and you will know what i mean. or ohh use your own window...

wow how colorful:

http://www.google.de/search?q=mgs+4&hl=de&client=firefox-a&hs=iqK&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=5arrTuCIBJDFswbDyYiRBw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CCYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=910

man i don't care just funny to try to defend mgs games and talking about colors, that's all.

That's the direction Kojima goes with MGS4 though, but it's not the lack of colors per se, its how they are presented in this "dark-ish" feel that the world is going to hell.

 

^Great picture of Naomi by the way.


Don't mind the quality, just threw in some different area pics.

 

 

The variety is there..


haha good that you psoted an ncharted pic few posts after that:

that proves exactly what i say, everything only green, yellow or green-brown, yellow-brown, yellow-green....

you say it's the style and i believe this. i don't say this is bad but i could say the same to gear of war 2. but the guy who tried to defend mgs graphics said gow2 is only grey. so why is always green good graphics and style and always grey is bad?

 

if i say only grey is bad than mgs shoul have plenty of colors at the same time otherwise this wasn't a good way to talk about what gow graphics make them not as good as mgs graphics.