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thismeintiel said:
Reasonable said:


Yeah, I probably stated that to definatively.  I should say I think 360 will outsell PS3 over holidays although I think EMEAA and Japan will keep PS3 close enough that WW will come close to a tie.  I still favour the PS3 to be ahead WW for 2011 but it's going to be close and I can see 360 reaching a draw.

But... all speculation of course as you note and far from a given.

I do wonder how things would be if PS3 had a MW3 bundle in EMEAA.  I'm presuming MS paid to have exclusive WW bundle so it was probably impossible but on these numbers it's likely PS3 would have remained even closer to 360 with such a bundle in EMEAA.

Most likely, it's going to be far from a draw.  I can see the PS3 still leading the 360 at the end of the year by ~800K-1M.  As I point out here, the overall gap may have gone down by ~115K, but last week the 360 needed to outsell the PS3 by 230K (and every week from then on) for there to be a draw.  Since that didn't happen, the 360 now needs to outsell the PS3 by 249K a week for 6 more weeks to tie it.  That MAY happen Black Friday week and a couple weeks in Dec, but definitely not the rest of the year.

@ Seece

Well, truthfully, I didn't know the tidbit about UK sales til after I had posted that.  But, considering I didn't just pull any of that from my ass, my argument was still far from rubbish.  I will admit I was proven wrong, though.

I didn't say you pulled it out your ass, just that it was rubbish, but you didn't know about the UK % so fair enough.



 

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Once again the gap between 360 and PS3 will rise. 360 and 3DS to explode this holiday season ;) I love these numbers.



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This is amazing for Skyrim! The game could leg out to 10 million with digital sales!!



This year, Sony have had a tonne of core exclusives and a price drop without Microsoft really doing anything other then the normal exclusives and they can't beat 360 consistently on a week-to-week basis.

In the core genre's of RPGs and Shooters 360 is dominating. Also on the casual side 360 is doing well. Kinect is still in the top 50 and Lego Harry Potter on 360 outsold even the Wii version.

Sony consistently has to have some concerns. Move is dead. A price drop wasn't enough to hold #1 in sales through the holidays. Also, Uncharted 3 is ok, but it should be exceptional in sales.

Think what you want about Microsoft, but they are outmaneuvering Sony on the marketing front every step of the way this generation.



If the PS3 has a similar drop to the 360 next week there definitely is something wrong. Last year the PS3 dropped 30k and 360 70k so we'll see.



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We know from many charts and figures we get from EMEEA countries that PS3 versions of multiplat sell atleast 75% compared to 360 ones. But here we have MW3 for PS3 1.3m and for 360 1m. So 360 version sold 43.5% in other countries? This is what sales should have been if tracked properly and taking in to account the overall differences in EMEEA. Soon we will start getting figures from other countries starting from next week but i dont think VGZ will change anything by then.

PS3 MW3 2.55m
360 MW3 1.75m

This is taking into account that both versions sold 4.3m in others.

So with this WW sales should be

360 MW3 6.35m
PS3 MW3 5.1m

So around about 44% share for PS3 WW.

And now loot at last year sale of Blops in couple of countries like France and Spain.

France 1st week PS3 share 70% and getting bigger by year end.

390k vs 170k.

Spain 375k sales till the end of 2010 and PS3 share 82% 310k.

These are official figures from Charttrack.

So i just want to know how this time around 360 version got 43% in those countries.



yup ps3 barely got boosted on all region with overflow of big games that just released......

Still good if this is actually true but looking at it i can already see adjustments hahay.



shanbcn said:

We know from many charts and figures we get from EMEEA countries that PS3 versions of multiplat sell atleast 75% compared to 360 ones. But here we have MW3 for PS3 1.3m and for 360 1m. So 360 version sold 43.5% in other countries? This is what sales should have been if tracked properly and taking in to account the overall differences in EMEEA. Soon we will start getting figures from other countries starting from next week but i dont think VGZ will change anything by then.

PS3 MW3 2.55m
360 MW3 1.75m

This is taking into account that both versions sold 4.3m in others.

So with this WW sales should be

360 MW3 6.35m
PS3 MW3 5.1m

So around about 44% share for PS3 WW.

And now loot at last year sale of Blops in couple of countries like France and Spain.

France 1st week PS3 share 70% and getting bigger by year end.

390k vs 170k.

Spain 375k sales till the end of 2010 and PS3 share 82% 310k.

These are official figures from Charttrack.

So i just want to know how this time around 360 version got 43% in those countries.

Agreed. Seems strange, to be sure



Waiting for the adjustments.



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pezus said:
shanbcn said:

We know from many charts and figures we get from EMEEA countries that PS3 versions of multiplat sell atleast 75% compared to 360 ones. But here we have MW3 for PS3 1.3m and for 360 1m. So 360 version sold 43.5% in other countries? This is what sales should have been if tracked properly and taking in to account the overall differences in EMEEA. Soon we will start getting figures from other countries starting from next week but i dont think VGZ will change anything by then.

PS3 MW3 2.55m
360 MW3 1.75m

This is taking into account that both versions sold 4.3m in others.

So with this WW sales should be

360 MW3 6.35m
PS3 MW3 5.1m

So around about 44% share for PS3 WW.

And now loot at last year sale of Blops in couple of countries like France and Spain.

France 1st week PS3 share 70% and getting bigger by year end.

390k vs 170k.

Spain 375k sales till the end of 2010 and PS3 share 82% 310k.

These are official figures from Charttrack.

So i just want to know how this time around 360 version got 43% in those countries.

Agreed. Seems strange, to be sure

Agreed too. Waiting for the adjustments.