superchunk said: UncleScrooge said: I like this thread, thanks Superchunk As for the rumored specs: They're pretty much in line with what I expect: 6 core CPU's for Microsoft and Sony consoles and Nintendo going with 4. Here's hope Sony and Microsoft will put more than 2GB of Ram into their consoles. Ram has really been a bottleneck this generation and the prices are incredibly cheap right now. It would also allow for more multitasking features. This generation definitely overshot the market at first (specs wise) but I am willing to pay $400 for a powerful new console. One question for those who are more into this: Do you think Nintendo can keep the relatively small size of the Wii U console if they put a quad core in there? It's bigger than a Wii but most of the space will still be taken by the disc drive. I remember when rumors about the Wii said it was going to have a 2Ghz dual core CPU and no one even considered how tiny this thing was. Yes, Nintendo will definitely be able to put the hardware I have in my OP in a device based on the sizes found on their WiiU E3 page. (Its relatively same thickness and width... but its a lot longer) Keep in mind there are phones and tablets coming out in a month with quad-core CPUs as well as many existing laptops. Then consider that IBM/AMD and Nintendo will heavily optimize the solution for lowest heat and size factors based on the cost and casing they want to produce.

Those CPUs will be scaled back versions though and chips in Phones are Arm based which tend to generate less heat. Consoles typically have pretty powerful chips at the time of their release.

Having said that the CPU probably won't be a problem considerring how Intel have managed energy requirements and heat on even the more powerful of the the i3-i7 chips. I still can't believe how small the stock coolers are on these chips. With the GPU being a fairly old architecture (and assuming current die shrinkages) a clever air cooling solution would still be doable... so actually thinking about... I agree

and "Morte" means?

i think i know but i might get banned again if i say the word

at gaf they are talking about WiiU having 2Gigs of ram but if it is DDR3 or 5 is unknown or if it is the faster ram Nintendo usually uses in their systems

All CPUs look pretty much the same internally regardless of instruction set because of decoding into micro-ops. They will be pretty similar in performance all else being equal, if anything AMD will be faster because they still cater to the mobile market (console TDP range) where IBM left a long time ago to focus on high end servers for Power.

The advantage of x86 is the ease of porting from and to the PC version.

tbh i dont even know anymore, im too tired lol

lets start again..

nide thread idea! cant wait too see how it evolves as more inforamtion comes in :D

I figured Nintendo would have been more likely to go the Fusion route before any announcements were made. I figured Sony would be least likely to go that route. Interesting.

You think they'll reveal at E3? I mean I hope so aswell, but I dunno man, I doubt it'll happen.

haven't seen any rumors about 720 getting Blu-Ray. I have see rumors it won't have physical media at all though...

THe bluray addition was really just me using expected logic. I fully expect MS to put the most current standard media drive, however, the logic behind them leaving it out all toghether does have some weight... I'll have to update the OP with that possibility.

I really don't know where everyone is getting that X720 will have 6 cores and running 3.7 GHz per core. For that matter I can't seem to find a DEFINITE source for the amount of total memory (let alone amt of eDRAM) for each system. The only sources I could find most definitely is that the Wii U is packing a modified POWER7 CPU similar to the Watson, and using a RADEON HD based RV770 GPU. source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/ibm-puts-watsons-brains-in-nintendo-wii-u/ and http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/14/wii-u-has-last-gen-radeon-inside-still-more-powerful-than-ps3-a/ . The latest development kit has the Wii U running with at least 1GB of unspecified RAM but that still doesn't give any information on the final number until a tear down occurs or an official release of specs. Please post official sources for the amt of RAM, CPU speeds, Cores (thought the POWER7 has a minimum of 4 cores so Wii U could have at least that much) the systems are suppose to get. Otherwise this thread sounds like a child's wish list for the upcoming systems (my opinion) than a legitimate checklist of confirmed/authentic information. Thanks.

The rumor behind them dropping optical discs was worded in such a way that it sounded like Microsoft might use SD cards to deliver games on, so it wouldn't necessarily be a DD-only console.