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DélioPT on 13 November 2011
padib said:

 

 

Thanks buddy, I appreciate your kind words.

I can see the negative comments, but I also appreciate the good ones. That goes to all those that have been supportive thoughout the thread: Player1X3, BazilZero, RolStoppable, Andrespetmonkey, and Runa216.

And Sapphi, though your name is not in the above list, your animosity towards me, and my viewpoint, have been a positive factor in helping me rethink my current position and point of view, and possibly revise anything that could be at fault. You may have been the best contributor to my personal life in this thread, close to Runa and Rol.

Glad to help! :)



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Runa216 on 13 November 2011
radishhead said:

Well said :)

Although, I still believe that religion is important as a way of teaching moral values to children. It's one of the main pillars of a civilised society imo


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dahuman on 13 November 2011

Modern church exists as a social hub, place of opportunity, helping others, while making a profit, people that claim they believe in God don't even follow the teaching of the bible at a 50% capacity in most cases just like many don't follow the laws. I'm not a part of it nor do I believe in the idea of God to be this end of it all perfect mother fucker, but a church can be beneficial in many ways to a lot of people, it's a life style.



radishhead on 13 November 2011
Runa216 said:
radishhead said:

Well said :)

Although, I still believe that religion is important as a way of teaching moral values to children. It's one of the main pillars of a civilised society imo


Your opinion is irrelevant in the end. it doesn't matter what you think, it either is or it isn't.  

In a religious discussion, how can anything be so black and white as that? There are arguments supporting and disagreeing with the statement I made about religion being important for civilisation



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dahuman on 13 November 2011
radishhead said:
Runa216 said:
radishhead said:

Well said :)

Although, I still believe that religion is important as a way of teaching moral values to children. It's one of the main pillars of a civilised society imo


Your opinion is irrelevant in the end. it doesn't matter what you think, it either is or it isn't.  

In a religious discussion, how can anything be so black and white as that? There are arguments supporting and disagreeing with the statement I made about religion being important for civilisation

Sadly, in modern society, things like Facebook and Linkedin are much more important than religions unless you live in parts of the world that still kill over religious beliefs, which I call backwards trash shit that should no longer exist.



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dahuman on 13 November 2011
radishhead said:
sales2099 said:
richardhutnik said:
sales2099 said:
Would the world be better off if religion was out of the equation? Offcourse.

Religions disputes have been the cause of many wars and campaigns. The crusades, Spanish inquisition.......Israel vs every country that borders them.

Hell in the middle east you will be killed if you "troll" Islam in public. Now thats a fanboy!

And replaced with what?  You would suggest that society be totally tempered and generate its values out of a consumerist driven economy where corporations pander to every base desire, and the only thing that informs the process is the base wants of individuals?  In short, throw out religion and replace it with the Home Shopping Network?

Historically, you have seen for centuries banking interests and public debt funding wars.  To ignore these elements is to be short-sighted and not be able to see an effective solution to problems.

Its easy to poke holes but harder to come up with a acceptable alternative. Id take home shopping network over religious inspired genocides any day. 

Well said :)

Although, I still believe that religion is important as a way of teaching moral values to children. It's one of the main pillars of a civilised society imo


No, it's called common sense and parenting, it's as easy as teaching your children to not break the law and tell them to always use a fucking condom so you don't have to raise your grand kids in their place, which too many parents don't do these days which in turn come the spoiled pussies which are so many of the children these days.



radishhead on 13 November 2011
dahuman said:
radishhead said:
sales2099 said:
richardhutnik said:
sales2099 said:
Would the world be better off if religion was out of the equation? Offcourse.

Religions disputes have been the cause of many wars and campaigns. The crusades, Spanish inquisition.......Israel vs every country that borders them.

Hell in the middle east you will be killed if you "troll" Islam in public. Now thats a fanboy!

And replaced with what?  You would suggest that society be totally tempered and generate its values out of a consumerist driven economy where corporations pander to every base desire, and the only thing that informs the process is the base wants of individuals?  In short, throw out religion and replace it with the Home Shopping Network?

Historically, you have seen for centuries banking interests and public debt funding wars.  To ignore these elements is to be short-sighted and not be able to see an effective solution to problems.

Its easy to poke holes but harder to come up with a acceptable alternative. Id take home shopping network over religious inspired genocides any day. 

Well said :)

Although, I still believe that religion is important as a way of teaching moral values to children. It's one of the main pillars of a civilised society imo


No, it's called common sense and parenting, it's as easy as teaching your children to not break the law and tell them to always use a fucking condom so you don't have to raise your grand kids in their place, which too many parents don't do these days which in turn come the spoiled pussies which are so many of the children these days.

Those parents that don't teach their children to not break laws and wear condoms are likely not religious though - the spoiled kids come from the "poor" families living off the government in their council houses



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oldschoolfool on 13 November 2011
radishhead said:
dahuman said:
radishhead said:
sales2099 said:
richardhutnik said:
sales2099 said:
Would the world be better off if religion was out of the equation? Offcourse.

Religions disputes have been the cause of many wars and campaigns. The crusades, Spanish inquisition.......Israel vs every country that borders them.

Hell in the middle east you will be killed if you "troll" Islam in public. Now thats a fanboy!

And replaced with what?  You would suggest that society be totally tempered and generate its values out of a consumerist driven economy where corporations pander to every base desire, and the only thing that informs the process is the base wants of individuals?  In short, throw out religion and replace it with the Home Shopping Network?

Historically, you have seen for centuries banking interests and public debt funding wars.  To ignore these elements is to be short-sighted and not be able to see an effective solution to problems.

Its easy to poke holes but harder to come up with a acceptable alternative. Id take home shopping network over religious inspired genocides any day. 

Well said :)

Although, I still believe that religion is important as a way of teaching moral values to children. It's one of the main pillars of a civilised society imo


No, it's called common sense and parenting, it's as easy as teaching your children to not break the law and tell them to always use a fucking condom so you don't have to raise your grand kids in their place, which too many parents don't do these days which in turn come the spoiled pussies which are so many of the children these days.

Those parents that don't teach their children to not break laws and wear condoms are likely not religious though - the spoiled kids come from the "poor" families living off the government in their council houses

so everybody that's not religious has bad morals and there nothing but poor people living off the goverment. You can not believe in any kind of god and still have good moral values. It's like your sterotyping.



radishhead on 13 November 2011
oldschoolfool said:
radishhead said:
dahuman said:
radishhead said:
sales2099 said:
richardhutnik said:
sales2099 said:
Would the world be better off if religion was out of the equation? Offcourse.

Religions disputes have been the cause of many wars and campaigns. The crusades, Spanish inquisition.......Israel vs every country that borders them.

Hell in the middle east you will be killed if you "troll" Islam in public. Now thats a fanboy!

And replaced with what?  You would suggest that society be totally tempered and generate its values out of a consumerist driven economy where corporations pander to every base desire, and the only thing that informs the process is the base wants of individuals?  In short, throw out religion and replace it with the Home Shopping Network?

Historically, you have seen for centuries banking interests and public debt funding wars.  To ignore these elements is to be short-sighted and not be able to see an effective solution to problems.

Its easy to poke holes but harder to come up with a acceptable alternative. Id take home shopping network over religious inspired genocides any day. 

Well said :)

Although, I still believe that religion is important as a way of teaching moral values to children. It's one of the main pillars of a civilised society imo


No, it's called common sense and parenting, it's as easy as teaching your children to not break the law and tell them to always use a fucking condom so you don't have to raise your grand kids in their place, which too many parents don't do these days which in turn come the spoiled pussies which are so many of the children these days.

Those parents that don't teach their children to not break laws and wear condoms are likely not religious though - the spoiled kids come from the "poor" families living off the government in their council houses

so everybody that's not religious has bad morals and there nothing but poor people living off the goverment. You can not believe in any kind of god and still have good moral values. It's like your sterotyping.

I'm saying that religious people are more likely to want to make the most of their (and their family's) lives, and so are more likely to care about the wellbeing of their children. Note that I'm not talking about the super-religious here, just the people with morals that are similar to those taught in the Holy Books. You can definitely have morals without believing in a God - I'm not religious, but I still try to follow the 7 virtues 



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Player1x3 on 13 November 2011
Runa216 said:
DélioPT said:
Padib you are a great guy! You are not perfect, but being able to publicly apologize for your behaviour is humbling and a sign of a decent and big hearted person! Don`t you forget that.


Only half right.  Yes it's humbling and noble to admit mistakes and accept defeat, but he's not a great guy.  Nobody with his ideals could be considered great in this day and age. 


Nobody with your ideals could be considered great. Judging from this thread, he has shown more respect, love and honesty to a fellow man than you and sapphi probably did in your entire hateful lifes.He seems, by far, (and im sure lots of atheists would agree with me) a billion times more tolerant person than you could ever dream of. Hes certainly better than you and sapphi snake in that regard