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Conegamer on 29 October 2011
Xerofortune said:
I thought wii had a 50 buck pricecut this time last year? Look at the wii games that were released last year and tell me how it could sell that much mre than the ps3 this time around.

No price cut.

 

Skyward Sword. That's all it needs. And Kirby, Just Dance, Mario Party etc...

Last year, the Wii had Donkey Kong Country Returns, a much lesser game than Zelda, Goldeneye (but that wasn't particularly system-seller), Epic Mickey and UDraw, but none were real system sellers and none had the same momentum and potential to push Hardware as Skyard Sword. I suppose there was Wii Party, but that launched way earlier if I remember correctly. Face it, it was $50 more expensive, and yet it managed to outsell the 360 by around 2mil in 10 weeks despite it having Kinect, COD etc.

Why can't it do even half as well this year?



 

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Troll_Whisperer on 29 October 2011
Conegamer said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

PS3 and XB360 have very irregular curves, heavily influenced by big HW moving events, like price cuts, big games releases, special offers at major chains of stores, etc, so we can predict very good holiday sales thanks to many SW releases, but we can't safely predict a trend.

Wii, OTOH, shows a very regular curve that even before big Xmas games releases suggests it could grow to very nice Xmas sales this year too.

Which one will sell more between BF and the end of the year? Really impossible to predict right now, but I dare to predict a big Xmas for each one. And while the year is by now lost for Wii, we can't rule it out as a possible winner of those last five weeks of the year.

How is the year 'lost' for the Wii? It's ahead of the 360 and less than 1mil behind the PS3 (and will likely end up around 1mil behind the PS3 for Zelda release), and the holidays for the PS3 have traditionally been best for the Wii and worst for the PS3. We can't rule out the possibility, albeit slim, that the Wii can sell 150-250k more than the PS3 on the Black Friday week WW, and weeks which follow, with new bundles, game releases, budget prices, strong SW etc., leaving them roughly level. 

Note how I said 'slim'. You're likely right, but in my short time at this site I have learnt never to underestimate the Wii during the holidays...

Also, looking at the same period last year, the Wii was (eerily) exactly the same behind the PS3 and the 360 as it is this year. Proceed to mid-November (the week before Black Friday) and the Wii was 120k ahead of the 360 which was 100k ahead of the PS3. The same occured for Black Friday week (despite GT5 launching) and the next few weeks, the Wii widened its gap over the competition, to around 350k over the 360 and 400k over the 360 the week after, which then went to 450k and 500k, and then 350k and 530k, and finally 430k and 550k for the week up to Christmas. The final wek of the year was then much slimmer, with the PS3 only 60k behind the Wii, and the 360 100k. 

A quick bit of Maths shows the Wii was well over 2mil ahead of the PS3 in the weeks we have left, so why can't the same happen this year, as it has a lower price, better SW and more advertising going for it, Remember, the 360 had Kinect as well, and it was still around 2mil behind the Wii in the same time. Even half the advantage will put the Wii in first.

Just a thought.

(3DS will beat them all anyway )

Not that I disagree with the Wii having a very good holiday season, but the bolded isn't true.

The Wii is 0.4m behid 360 and 1.7m behind PS3 so far this year.



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Carl on 29 October 2011
Conegamer said:

How is the year 'lost' for the Wii? It's ahead of the 360 and less than 1mil behind the PS3 (and will likely end up around 1mil behind the PS3 for Zelda release),. 

A quick bit of Maths shows the Wii was well over 2mil ahead of the PS3 in the weeks we have left, so why can't the same happen this year, as it has a lower price, better SW and more advertising going for it, Remember, the 360 had Kinect as well, and it was still around 2mil behind the Wii in the same time. Even half the advantage will put the Wii in first.

Just a thought.

(3DS will beat them all anyway )

Erm... 2011 Sales so far for you, right here.

PS3 - 7.9M
360 - 6.6M
Wii - 6.1M

The Wii is not ahead of the 360, and it's not less than 1 Million behind the PS3. It's close to being 2 Million units behind the PS3, and it SHOULD be 2 Million behind within 2 Weeks... The Wii has no chance of cutting the PS3 lead down to 1 Million by Skyward Sword release.



                            

Conegamer on 29 October 2011
Carl2291 said:
Conegamer said:

How is the year 'lost' for the Wii? It's ahead of the 360 and less than 1mil behind the PS3 (and will likely end up around 1mil behind the PS3 for Zelda release),. 

A quick bit of Maths shows the Wii was well over 2mil ahead of the PS3 in the weeks we have left, so why can't the same happen this year, as it has a lower price, better SW and more advertising going for it, Remember, the 360 had Kinect as well, and it was still around 2mil behind the Wii in the same time. Even half the advantage will put the Wii in first.

Just a thought.

(3DS will beat them all anyway )

Erm... 2011 Sales so far for you, right here.

PS3 - 7.9M
360 - 6.6M
Wii - 6.1M

The Wii is not ahead of the 360, and it's not less than 1 Million behind the PS3. It's close to being 2 Million units behind the PS3, and it SHOULD be 2 Million behind within 2 Weeks... The Wii has no chance of cutting the PS3 lead down to 1 Million by Skyward Sword release.

I was using that image from the front page. 

Where are you getting your figures from? O.o



 

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mantlepiecek on 29 October 2011

Relax guys. Conegamer hasn't cleared his cache, and is probably seeing outdated nos....
Although I though even outdated nos considered, wii was behind the 360?



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Conegamer on 29 October 2011
kowenicki said:
Conegamer said:
Carl2291 said:
Conegamer said:

How is the year 'lost' for the Wii? It's ahead of the 360 and less than 1mil behind the PS3 (and will likely end up around 1mil behind the PS3 for Zelda release),. 

A quick bit of Maths shows the Wii was well over 2mil ahead of the PS3 in the weeks we have left, so why can't the same happen this year, as it has a lower price, better SW and more advertising going for it, Remember, the 360 had Kinect as well, and it was still around 2mil behind the Wii in the same time. Even half the advantage will put the Wii in first.

Just a thought.

(3DS will beat them all anyway )

Erm... 2011 Sales so far for you, right here.

PS3 - 7.9M
360 - 6.6M
Wii - 6.1M

The Wii is not ahead of the 360, and it's not less than 1 Million behind the PS3. It's close to being 2 Million units behind the PS3, and it SHOULD be 2 Million behind within 2 Weeks... The Wii has no chance of cutting the PS3 lead down to 1 Million by Skyward Sword release.

I was using that image from the front page. 

Where are you getting your figures from? O.o

the blue column is the wii and the green column is the 360... now... how does that show the wii is ahead of the 360 again?  and how does it show it is only 1m behind the PS3 (thats the red column by the way)

are you slighlty confued? tired? or pissed?

I'll show you what it says on my computer:

Wii-5.3

360- 5.2

PS3- 6.1

 

(Handhelds)

DS- 5.5

PSP-3.9

 

So...yeah. I make that to be the Wii is 100k ahead of the 360 and 900k behind the PS3. 

Thinking about it, it hasn't changed recently...

 

BTW- I don't like people making such comments when the stuff I have CLEARLY shows what I wrote. Regardless, whilst it may be more difficult, it doesn't change a thing. The Wii has a slim chance of finishing over the PS3, but should easily clear the 360 IMO. But, we shall see. It's only 10 weeks right?



 

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ethomaz on 29 October 2011

Conegamer said:

I'll show you what it says on my computer:

Wii-5.3

360- 5.2

PS3- 6.1

 

(Handhelds)

DS- 5.5

PSP-3.9

 

So...yeah. I make that to be the Wii is 100k ahead of the 360 and 900k behind the PS3.

Thinking about it, it hasn't changed recently...

Here is the best place for see the real yearly numbers.

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly.php

No cached image.



Conegamer on 29 October 2011
ethomaz said:

Conegamer said:

 I'll show you what it says on my computer:

Wii-5.3

360- 5.2

PS3- 6.1

 

(Handhelds)

DS- 5.5

PSP-3.9

 

So...yeah. I make that to be the Wii is 100k ahead of the 360 and 900k behind the PS3.

Thinking about it, it hasn't changed recently...

Here is the best place for see the real yearly numbers.

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly.php

No cached image.

Yeh, that's showing up now. Thanks for the heads up!

 

I'll just use that for now. Saves me the heartbreak



 

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jugon21 on 29 October 2011

Great sales overall. I think that PS3 will be on top this year due to the price cut.

04th Jan 2009 to 24th Oct 2009:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
10,653,276
6,879,882
5,605,835

25th Oct 2009 to 02nd Jan 2010:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
10,555,492
6,117,285
4,533,551

03rd Jan 2010 to 23rd Oct 2010:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
9,173,649
8,605,042
7,088,106

24th Oct 2010 to 01st Jan 2011:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
8,467,943
5,786,329
6,518,532

02nd Jan 2011 to 22nd Oct 2011:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
6,162,260
7,911,163
6,606,293


Conegamer on 29 October 2011
jugon21 said:

Great sales overall. I think that PS3 will be on top this year due to the price cut.

04th Jan 2009 to 24th Oct 2009:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
10,653,276
6,879,882
5,605,835

25th Oct 2009 to 02nd Jan 2010:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
10,555,492
6,117,285
4,533,551

03rd Jan 2010 to 23rd Oct 2010:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
9,173,649
8,605,042
7,088,106

24th Oct 2010 to 01st Jan 2011:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
8,467,943
5,786,329
6,518,532

02nd Jan 2011 to 22nd Oct 2011:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
6,162,260
7,911,163
6,606,293

Well, at least I got my other figures right

I expect:

Wii- 5.5mil

PS3-4.3mil

360- 4.8mil

 

So all consoles within around 500k by year's end. But any console could far exceed that (I doubt any console will sell less than 4mil from here)



 

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