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smroadkill15 on 25 October 2011

This game will be 100% multiplat. No way Rockstar is going to not release GTA5 on the system GTA4 sold most on. Probably wont be any exclusive DLC this time. Looking forward to it and expect a fall 2012 release date.



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Mr Khan on 25 October 2011
Seece said:
Mr Khan said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Seece said:
milkyjoe said:
It'll be interesting to see what platforms it's announced for...


Be surprised if they SAY WiiU, GTA doesn't sell well on Nintendo platforms, PS360 and PC versions will put GTAV above 20 million, if not 25 mill. They don't need an extra 2 or so mill for a WiiU version.


There has never been a real GTA game on a Nintendo platform.  A Wii U version with improved graphics would sell a hell of a lot more than 2 million I think.

The fallacy to Seece's logic here is that 2 million would more than pay for the port by several times over, as well as the fallacy that GTA games don't sell on Nintendo platforms when we have no proof of that, and Chinatown Wars was as much GTA as Extraction was Dead Space

GTA games on PSP sold amazingly, out comes one for DS and bombs in comparison. COD is a fine example to go by, 12 mill each on HD systems and barely musters 1 mill on Wii, so my 2 mill was very optimistic.

A the end of the day the Nintendo audience like these types of games in very small numbers, and if you think a little extra horsepower is going to help pursuade people to buy it on WiiU you're wrong.

Your argument is at once self-defeating and continues to be false in either respect. First, the reason for disparity of Call of Duty games on Wii is due to the fact that 4, the game that made the series big in the first place, skipped Wii (due to Infinity Ward's intransigience), and then subsequent entries have been laughably feature-stripped. It is for similar reasons that games like Madden and FIFA barely make a blip on the radar on Wii, since EA insists on treating them as the joke versions

Secondly, the DS game was apples and oranges to the PSP ones. As i said before Chinatown Wars: GTA as Extraction: Dead Space. The fact that Chinatown Wars was a bomb when it rereleased on PSP should prove that. It did not have the appeal of the other GTA games, and that was a factor independent of platform choice as the porting proved

ergo, there is no evidence that a feature-matched port of GTAV for Wii U would do disproportionately poorly



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yo_john117 on 25 October 2011
pezus said:
yo_john117 said:
pezus said:
Although I don't expect it to be PS3 exclusive I still expect the PS3 version to sell the most. Maybe not FW but lifetime. Just look at GTAIV and the PS3 version's incredible legs.

Why though? The 360 version of GTA IV outsold the PS3 version by a decent amount. They both are having incredible legs.

GTAIV 360 ten week total: 5,762,801
GTAIV 360 sales to date: 9,212,704
Difference: 3,449,903

GTAIV PS3 ten week total: 4,375,303
GTAIV PS3 sales to date: 8,328,790
Difference: 3,953,487

360 Console sales when GTAIV released: 18,061,568
PS3 Console sales when GTAIV released: 11,923,933
Difference: 6,137,635 
Difference when GTAV releases: Most likely 1-3m

So...the consoles will be much closer in sales (relatively) than before and to me it looks like the PS3 version of GTAIV has been more popular overall after the first 10 weeks. And this time around there will most likely not be any "exclusive" DLC like last time.

I could be wrong, but that's just what I predict. 360 version will see a slightly bigger first week but the PS3 version will catch up and go beyond.

I guess we'll have to see. I still think the 360 version will outsell the PS3 version in the end but it's possible it won't.



Mr Khan on 25 October 2011
pezus said:
Mr Khan said:

Your argument is at once self-defeating and continues to be false in either respect. First, the reason for disparity of Call of Duty games on Wii is due to the fact that 4, the game that made the series big in the first place, skipped Wii (due to Infinity Ward's intransigience), and then subsequent entries have been laughably feature-stripped. It is for similar reasons that games like Madden and FIFA barely make a blip on the radar on Wii, since EA insists on treating them as the joke versions

Secondly, the DS game was apples and oranges to the PSP ones. As i said before Chinatown Wars: GTA as Extraction: Dead Space. The fact that Chinatown Wars was a bomb when it rereleased on PSP should prove that. It did not have the appeal of the other GTA games, and that was a factor independent of platform choice as the porting proved

ergo, there is no evidence that a feature-matched port of GTAV for Wii U would do disproportionately poorly

That's just not true. The reason it didn't do well on the PSP is that it was a DS game in a PSP case.

You've hit the answer right there, but you're taking it in the wrong direction. If the game's poor sales on the DS were due to audience, as Seece contends, then the port of the game should have sold better, regardless of the fact that it was a straight port. If the game had the same kind of appeal as the "Stories" games, then it would have done far better than it did, even if it were graphically inferior. The fact that you accuse it of being a "DS game in a PSP case" shows that the problem with the game was that it was different, it was DS-y. If it were true to the franchise, it would have worked.



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Mr Khan on 25 October 2011
pezus said:
Mr Khan said:
pezus said:
Mr Khan said:
 

Your argument is at once self-defeating and continues to be false in either respect. First, the reason for disparity of Call of Duty games on Wii is due to the fact that 4, the game that made the series big in the first place, skipped Wii (due to Infinity Ward's intransigience), and then subsequent entries have been laughably feature-stripped. It is for similar reasons that games like Madden and FIFA barely make a blip on the radar on Wii, since EA insists on treating them as the joke versions

Secondly, the DS game was apples and oranges to the PSP ones. As i said before Chinatown Wars: GTA as Extraction: Dead Space. The fact that Chinatown Wars was a bomb when it rereleased on PSP should prove that. It did not have the appeal of the other GTA games, and that was a factor independent of platform choice as the porting proved

ergo, there is no evidence that a feature-matched port of GTAV for Wii U would do disproportionately poorly

That's just not true. The reason it didn't do well on the PSP is that it was a DS game in a PSP case.

You've hit the answer right there, but you're taking it in the wrong direction. If the game's poor sales on the DS were due to audience, as Seece contends, then the port of the game should have sold better, regardless of the fact that it was a straight port. If the game had the same kind of appeal as the "Stories" games, then it would have done far better than it did, even if it were graphically inferior. The fact that you accuse it of being a "DS game in a PSP case" shows that the problem with the game was that it was different, it was DS-y. If it were true to the franchise, it would have worked.

Yeah I'm not disagreeing with your overall point but I just had to point this out. A Wii U version could certainly sell well, if it's marketed and is at least on par with the PS3/360 version in graphics. It won't reach PS3/360 level of sales but could manage a few millions. I'm not sure if Rock* will do it though, I think it will get more hype if it's a straight PS3/360 game than if it's spread thin across many platforms.

I'm suspicious that it will not be done, but simply because of my assumption that all western third parties would rather light themselves on fire than work on a Nintendo platform, so Take Two would have to be damned insistent that the game be made, but i don't think GTA is the kind of game that needs additional hype to the point where leaving money on the table by not making an easy port would be warranted



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DeadEye on 25 October 2011

It's about dam time. I just hope they don't screw it up big time like they did with IV. I only wish that the guys who did RDR (Rockstar San Diego) had done it.



Seece on 25 October 2011
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Seece said:
crissindahouse said:
Seece said:

No I used COD as well as practically this entire gen to prove my point, you just ignored that.

so u use cod which lives a lot from the graphics/effects and that's why a gta won't sell very well on the wiiu? wiiu will have better graphics than 360 and ps3 right? or minimum as good as them.

i wouldn't buy a cod game on the wii as well but i would buy it on wii u

You think graphics sell COD on PS3 and 360? rofl

yes!? and the online of course

the whole hardcore audience buys the hardcore games for the HD consoles for the graphics, and some people for the classic controls, provided Wii has a classic controller, having Ps3/Xbox360 graphics and HD display would dominate something like Ps2, every 3rd party game wouln't miss the Wii and those it gets wouldn't be as ugly and broken ports...

Wii missed the hardcore games and hardcorea sales cause of the graphics, and maybe a smaller part cause of the not as good online (although Mario Kart Wii has the best online on a console)

GTA V needs to be on WiiU and PsV at least, not Ps3/Xbox360 again, there's not much potential if they stick with the same consoles again... where WiiU and PsV innovation will add to the gamplay, 3DS is probaby the last platform there are considered (due to graphics)

No they buy it for the games, that arnt on Wii. (Which is a lot of them)

GTAV needs to be on WiiU and PSV and not PS3 and 360? Sure if they want to sell less than half the amount they would on PS360, what a dumb thing to suggest ... you don't need a controller with a screen to add innovation ... ugh why am I even replying to this crpa, makes my head hurt.



 

Seece on 25 October 2011
Mr Khan said:
Seece said:
Mr Khan said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Seece said:
milkyjoe said:
It'll be interesting to see what platforms it's announced for...


Be surprised if they SAY WiiU, GTA doesn't sell well on Nintendo platforms, PS360 and PC versions will put GTAV above 20 million, if not 25 mill. They don't need an extra 2 or so mill for a WiiU version.


There has never been a real GTA game on a Nintendo platform.  A Wii U version with improved graphics would sell a hell of a lot more than 2 million I think.

The fallacy to Seece's logic here is that 2 million would more than pay for the port by several times over, as well as the fallacy that GTA games don't sell on Nintendo platforms when we have no proof of that, and Chinatown Wars was as much GTA as Extraction was Dead Space

GTA games on PSP sold amazingly, out comes one for DS and bombs in comparison. COD is a fine example to go by, 12 mill each on HD systems and barely musters 1 mill on Wii, so my 2 mill was very optimistic.

A the end of the day the Nintendo audience like these types of games in very small numbers, and if you think a little extra horsepower is going to help pursuade people to buy it on WiiU you're wrong.

Your argument is at once self-defeating and continues to be false in either respect. First, the reason for disparity of Call of Duty games on Wii is due to the fact that 4, the game that made the series big in the first place, skipped Wii (due to Infinity Ward's intransigience), and then subsequent entries have been laughably feature-stripped. It is for similar reasons that games like Madden and FIFA barely make a blip on the radar on Wii, since EA insists on treating them as the joke versions

Secondly, the DS game was apples and oranges to the PSP ones. As i said before Chinatown Wars: GTA as Extraction: Dead Space. The fact that Chinatown Wars was a bomb when it rereleased on PSP should prove that. It did not have the appeal of the other GTA games, and that was a factor independent of platform choice as the porting proved

ergo, there is no evidence that a feature-matched port of GTAV for Wii U would do disproportionately poorly

No you're just ignoring the blinding obvious, that most Nintendo fans started to admit a long time ago (you'll get there) the audience just isn't there on the wii. End of. Get over it.



 

Seece on 25 October 2011

3DS GTA selling better than PSP version reasoning is poor at best, year old ports never do amazing, even if they're incrdible games (look at Bioshock and ME2 on PS3) for the most part that's because they got them on the other system, but be assured that if GTA Chinatown had released on PSP, it would have done much much better.

That said I believe DS appeals more to your typical 'gamer' as I know a lot of people swear down the DS is amazing (actually I don't hear much to the contry) but don't rate the Wii at all.

DS is a better platform for selling GTA than Wii will ever be



 

JOKA_ on 25 October 2011
Dr.Grass said:
This is about as big as it gets. Nice catch OP.

As a massive GTAIV critic, I'm willing to put that all behind me and look forward to this one. After all - RDR was incredible.


My thoughts exactly.  GTAIV was "meh" but RDR was STELLAR.  If they have learned and change the formula up this could be amazing.  I am really excited!

 

Also, they did a really good job keeping this a secret!  Its rare these days that huge games get announced with no rumors before-hand.



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