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S.T.A.G.E. said:
oniyide said:
No offense to the OP, but it seems more like a personal problem. You dont HAVE to go to lens of truth to find out which one is better looking, you choose to do that. Its no ones fault that the the PS360 are much closer hardware and library wise than PS2 and xbox one. Just buy the game for whatever 90% you cant even tell the difference between the two versions unless you hold them up together and even then I find it hard to tell, IMHO


I'm sure a lot of people share my sentiments and have their own reasons why they miss last gen or any other gen before. As one said before, gaming has become a chore which takes more thinking than it should. Some might like this gen more and thats fine because there are a lot of great games from this gen which I love. Everyone has their own personal problems, of course, it happens but I am trying to make light of an issue that has made itself very visible this gen and I hope it sorts itself out next gen. Lens of Truth has become a choice place to turn to if you are a multiplat console owner like myself and you want to know which version plays better without as many issues. It's like Gattaca in finding out which baby is perfect and which is imperfect. This is what happens when there are so many multiplat games on two consoles that mirror each others offerings in most cases. The difference between issues of similarity is that it shows a major draw back in games when compared to the era of the Genesis vs the SNES where Sega and Nintendo both had plenty of exclusives to show what their hardware could do. They also improved their hardware to increase the capabilities of the games. It was the gamers choice to decide what they want. To that extent I am also glad the lot of Japanese devs don't make constant PC games so they can focus on the games themselves. There is no reason for them to take five to six year to complete a title (or not) like Polyphony Digital, but anything less will do. It's also why I respect companies like Dice who will not give into the yearly profit temptation with their main franchise and wait until a game is finished to truly release it. The online has made things interesting and has made the multiplayer experience quite fun this gen but where does it give when it comes to story and gameplay?

 

Secondly, a war is beginning between publishers, trade-in brick and mortar companies and gamers alike. This online code thing is going too far to the point where actual paying gamers are becoming the enemy when their true enemy are the trade in stores and pirates alike. I don't mind paying $60 for a game thats worth it and I am sure the majority of console gamers don't mind either, but at the same time it's not like Gamestop doesn't gauge the popularity and value of such games either. This is how they know which game has lost value over another. In the end I hope everything sorts itself out. Thats all I can say.

I was gonna disagree but I remembered that I had to think, really THINK about whether to get Wii or 360, Wii had unique features i wanted to try but the hardware was weak and i wasnt hearing great things about the online(besides VC) 360 was RRODing right and left, i didnt want to deal with that headache and most games I wanted were coming to PS3. I went with Wii and had every intention of getting 360, but by the time they truly fixed the problem, there was nothing that interested me.

Im sorry but how is PS360 situation so different from SNES/GEN?? they both had consoles similar to each other in terms of power and library. Sony could stand to advertise more, but IMHO they are pretty much doing great with 1st stuff. MS had been slacking but they are picking it up at least in terms of Kinect

I agree with the whole damn thing, love the Gattaca reference, good movie



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I own a lot of games for the current generation. Now you can argue it's either because there are plenty of good games or because the games are short and get boring very quickly so I need new ones. Games of the last two generations were played for far more time. I played games like five times to a 100% statistic, going for extreme results like "beat the CPU on hard with highest handicap" and stuff like that (take a soccer game, hardest CPU, 7 vs 11 players, bad mood vs great mood, and win that match without the CPU getting a single goal) - everything without Trophies and Achievements.

Are games getting better or worse? I have wondered this myself for months now. I personally think the same as what is stated in the first post. Since the West is so strong games have changed too much for me. It's not really a game anymore, just entertainment like movies. That's probably why I play lots of retro, remakes, arcade and Japanese "shovelware".



morenoingrato said:
I want Japanese domination again

Japanese domination never stopped.Look at the Wii for example.Japanese dominate at almost every aspect of gaming.I would love to live in Japan just to go to those game arcades daily.I mean I love it in America but people definitely do think to high of themselves.



VGKing said:
I disagree. The best-selling games this gen ARE NOT focused on graphics. Here's some examples
-Wii Sports
-Super Mario Galaxy
-Call of Duty

I agree the best selling games this gen are not focused on graphics but, Wii sports sold alot because it was bundled with the Wii lol.CoD sold alot because well I honestly forgot maybe it was because people hyped it up everyone brought it and it just took off from there.Mario Galaxy I dont know about that one since I dont own Mario Galaxy or know much about it.



Ostro said:
I own a lot of games for the current generation. Now you can argue it's either because there are plenty of good games or because the games are short and get boring very quickly so I need new ones. Games of the last two generations were played for far more time. I played games like five times to a 100% statistic, going for extreme results like "beat the CPU on hard with highest handicap" and stuff like that (take a soccer game, hardest CPU, 7 vs 11 players, bad mood vs great mood, and win that match without the CPU getting a single goal) - everything without Trophies and Achievements.

Are games getting better or worse? I have wondered this myself for months now. I personally think the same as what is stated in the first post. Since the West is so strong games have changed too much for me. It's not really a game anymore, just entertainment like movies. That's probably why I play lots of retro, remakes, arcade and Japanese "shovelware".


Yeah, one of my friends is getting really close to quitting games all together. I still love it whichever direction it goes, but he sold his Xbox 360 and kept his Wii because of his wife and friends. He also has the whole PS2 library and loves to still collect those. He also plays emulators for all the older games he missed out on. Holding onto the older games is his balance of sorts. He'll only play next gen Tekken really. I like others perspectives, because they make you think on a whole other level about the situation.



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d21lewis said:
And yet, when I look at my library of close to 100 Gamecube and PS2 games (each), I have a hard time finding games that had gameplay on the level of NSMB Wii or LBP2, or any number of XBLA titles. Nothing as intense as Gears of War, or Punch Out. No amazingly fun co-op games as Resident Evil 5 or The Simpsons Game. And definitely nothing that sucked up hours and hours of my time without ever getting old like the Call of Duty (online) series or Peggle.

There's an obvious push for the cinematic this gen but it's what last gen games were trying to be (my favorite game from last gen was MGS3). It just depends on where you look. I think games have gotten better, not worse. All it took was a few sessions of Resident Evil (Gamecube), Resident Evil 4, or Metroid Prime to convince me of this.

Long Live Play.


I feel quite the opposite on this point. I think I have like 57 Gamecube games and 66 PS2 games, while I only have like 28 Wii games and 33 PS3 games (half as many).

I felt that I more enjoyed the large range of titles on the Gamecube and PS2, than I did the smaller range of titles on the Wii and PS3. I also notice that the Wii and PS3 games have a shorter playing time on average, sometimes due to content, but mostly due to lack of difficulty.

There are the few occasional titles on the Wii and PS3 that stand head and shoulders above all games before them, but I can only play those same games for so much time. As such, I have come to be burnt out on a lot of my Wii and PS3 library.

As of late, I have been going back to buying older games (which is a good way to save money on gaming), ironically now attaining an opposite, but good problem; I have become buried by my back log of games I haven't even played (mostly PSP and PS2).

I don't know what next gen gaming holds for me, but as of right now I am putting most (not all) my hopes on the Vita. I hope it goes well for me. :D



street fighter 4, tekken 6, gears of war series, mortal kombat.... are the games i enjoy most this gen. in terms of a larger number of good games i'll go for the previous gen, but in quality it's unquestionably this gen. though i hate the fact that everything is about the visuals now and they all look the same to me. :(



trent44 said:
d21lewis said:
And yet, when I look at my library of close to 100 Gamecube and PS2 games (each), I have a hard time finding games that had gameplay on the level of NSMB Wii or LBP2, or any number of XBLA titles. Nothing as intense as Gears of War, or Punch Out. No amazingly fun co-op games as Resident Evil 5 or The Simpsons Game. And definitely nothing that sucked up hours and hours of my time without ever getting old like the Call of Duty (online) series or Peggle.

There's an obvious push for the cinematic this gen but it's what last gen games were trying to be (my favorite game from last gen was MGS3). It just depends on where you look. I think games have gotten better, not worse. All it took was a few sessions of Resident Evil (Gamecube), Resident Evil 4, or Metroid Prime to convince me of this.

Long Live Play.


I feel quite the opposite on this point. I think I have like 57 Gamecube games and 66 PS2 games, while I only have like 28 Wii games and 33 PS3 games (half as many).

I felt that I more enjoyed the large range of titles on the Gamecube and PS2, than I did the smaller range of titles on the Wii and PS3. I also notice that the Wii and PS3 games have a shorter playing time on average, sometimes due to content, but mostly due to lack of difficulty.

There are the few occasional titles on the Wii and PS3 that stand head and shoulders above all games before them, but I can only play those same games for so much time. As such, I have come to be burnt out on a lot of my Wii and PS3 library.

As of late, I have been going back to buying older games (which is a good way to save money on gaming), ironically now attaining an opposite, but good problem; I have become buried by my back log of games I haven't even played (mostly PSP and PS2).

I don't know what next gen gaming holds for me, but as of right now I am putting most (not all) my hopes on the Vita. I hope it goes well for me. :D


I want the Vita as well. I can see a lot of hot JRPG's coming out for it that never touched down on the PS3. Man it's crazy how poor the PS3 JRPG's are this gen and how good the PSP ones are. The Xbox 360 has Lost Odyssey and The Wii has the crowd with Xenoblade and The Last Story. Versus couldn't find a better time to come out.



trent44 said:
d21lewis said:
And yet, when I look at my library of close to 100 Gamecube and PS2 games (each), I have a hard time finding games that had gameplay on the level of NSMB Wii or LBP2, or any number of XBLA titles. Nothing as intense as Gears of War, or Punch Out. No amazingly fun co-op games as Resident Evil 5 or The Simpsons Game. And definitely nothing that sucked up hours and hours of my time without ever getting old like the Call of Duty (online) series or Peggle.

There's an obvious push for the cinematic this gen but it's what last gen games were trying to be (my favorite game from last gen was MGS3). It just depends on where you look. I think games have gotten better, not worse. All it took was a few sessions of Resident Evil (Gamecube), Resident Evil 4, or Metroid Prime to convince me of this.

Long Live Play.


I feel quite the opposite on this point. I think I have like 57 Gamecube games and 66 PS2 games, while I only have like 28 Wii games and 33 PS3 games (half as many).

I felt that I more enjoyed the large range of titles on the Gamecube and PS2, than I did the smaller range of titles on the Wii and PS3. I also notice that the Wii and PS3 games have a shorter playing time on average, sometimes due to content, but mostly due to lack of difficulty.

There are the few occasional titles on the Wii and PS3 that stand head and shoulders above all games before them, but I can only play those same games for so much time. As such, I have come to be burnt out on a lot of my Wii and PS3 library.

As of late, I have been going back to buying older games (which is a good way to save money on gaming), ironically now attaining an opposite, but good problem; I have become buried by my back log of games I haven't even played (mostly PSP and PS2).

I don't know what next gen gaming holds for me, but as of right now I am putting most (not all) my hopes on the Vita. I hope it goes well for me. :D


I want the Vita as well. I can see a lot of hot JRPG's coming out for it that never touched down on the PS3. Man it's crazy how poor the PS3 JRPG's are this gen and how good the PSP ones are. The Xbox 360 has Lost Odyssey and The Wii has the crowd with Xenoblade and The Last Story. Versus couldn't find a better time to come out. Sony needs to put monster hunter on the PS3.



trent44 said:
d21lewis said:
And yet, when I look at my library of close to 100 Gamecube and PS2 games (each), I have a hard time finding games that had gameplay on the level of NSMB Wii or LBP2, or any number of XBLA titles. Nothing as intense as Gears of War, or Punch Out. No amazingly fun co-op games as Resident Evil 5 or The Simpsons Game. And definitely nothing that sucked up hours and hours of my time without ever getting old like the Call of Duty (online) series or Peggle.

There's an obvious push for the cinematic this gen but it's what last gen games were trying to be (my favorite game from last gen was MGS3). It just depends on where you look. I think games have gotten better, not worse. All it took was a few sessions of Resident Evil (Gamecube), Resident Evil 4, or Metroid Prime to convince me of this.

Long Live Play.


I feel quite the opposite on this point. I think I have like 57 Gamecube games and 66 PS2 games, while I only have like 28 Wii games and 33 PS3 games (half as many).

I felt that I more enjoyed the large range of titles on the Gamecube and PS2, than I did the smaller range of titles on the Wii and PS3. I also notice that the Wii and PS3 games have a shorter playing time on average, sometimes due to content, but mostly due to lack of difficulty.

There are the few occasional titles on the Wii and PS3 that stand head and shoulders above all games before them, but I can only play those same games for so much time. As such, I have come to be burnt out on a lot of my Wii and PS3 library.

As of late, I have been going back to buying older games (which is a good way to save money on gaming), ironically now attaining an opposite, but good problem; I have become buried by my back log of games I haven't even played (mostly PSP and PS2).

I don't know what next gen gaming holds for me, but as of right now I am putting most (not all) my hopes on the Vita. I hope it goes well for me. :D


I want the Vita as well. I can see a lot of hot JRPG's coming out for it that never touched down on the PS3. Man it's crazy how poor the PS3 JRPG's are this gen and how good the PSP ones are. The Xbox 360 has Lost Odyssey and The Wii has the crowd with Xenoblade and The Last Story. Versus couldn't find a better time to come out. Sony needs to get monster hunter on the PS3.