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1. An affordable but still powerful console. I don't mind if it's a little pricey at first, gives it long legs, but in this economy maximum launch price should be £350 ($500).

2. Stick to blu-ray, it will obviously read a lot faster in the PS4 since drive speeds have increased and 66gb blu-rays (dual-layer) will become standard in the very near future. BDXL is a possibility (128gb).

3. Stick to the CELL. Improve it ofcourse, more powerful, more spus. Devolopers have come to grips with the structure and a few now know brilliant way's of utilizing it. Also sony has invested a lot into it and it would keep costs down.

4. Good GPU, will most likely be based on the GTX560, maybe something a little better, depending on when PS4 comes out.

5. 320GB and 500GB Hard drives. Solid state is still far too expensive. Game saves stored on the cloud, for all psn users.

6. Keep pumping the awesome exclusives and first party ip. Sony really can't go wrong with this, they own a crapload of talented and experienced dev teams.

7. Keep a good relationship with the third parties, keep the third party support coming (e.g. steam)

8. Keep the XMB but clean it up a little, improve the store, google chrome, keep the network free but still keep a premium service (ps+).

9. Just keep adding features and innovating.



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1. An affordable but still powerful console. I don't mind if it's a little pricey at first, gives it long legs, but in this economy maximum launch price should be £350 ($500).

2. Stick to blu-ray, it will obviously read a lot faster in the PS4 since drive speeds have increased and 66gb blu-rays (dual-layer) will become standard in the very near future. BDXL is a possibility (128gb).

3. Stick to the CELL. Improve it ofcourse, more powerful, more spus. Devolopers have come to grips with the structure and a few now know brilliant way's of utilizing it. Also sony has invested a lot into it and it would keep costs down.

4. Good GPU, will most likely be based on the GTX560, maybe something a little better, depending on when PS4 comes out.

5. 320GB and 500GB Hard drives. Solid state is still far too expensive. Game saves stored on the cloud, for all psn users.

6. Keep pumping the awesome exclusives and first party ip. Sony really can't go wrong with this, they own a crapload of talented and experienced dev teams.

7. Keep a good relationship with the third parties, keep the third party support coming (e.g. steam)

8. Keep the XMB but clean it up a little, improve the store, google chrome, keep the network free but still keep a premium service (ps+).

9. Just keep adding features and innovating.



Andrespetmonkey said:
1. An affordable but still powerful console. I don't mind if it's a little pricey at first, gives it long legs, but in this economy maximum launch price should be £350 ($500).

2. Stick to blu-ray, it will obviously read a lot faster in the PS4 since drive speeds have increased and 66gb blu-rays (dual-layer) will become standard in the very near future. BDXL is a possibility (128gb).

3. Stick to the CELL. Improve it ofcourse, more powerful, more spus. Devolopers have come to grips with the structure and a few now know brilliant way's of utilizing it. Also sony has invested a lot into it and it would keep costs down.

4. Good GPU, will most likely be based on the GTX560, maybe something a little better, depending on when PS4 comes out.

5. 320GB and 500GB Hard drives. Solid state is still far too expensive. Game saves stored on the cloud, for all psn users.

6. Keep pumping the awesome exclusives and first party ip. Sony really can't go wrong with this, they own a crapload of talented and experienced dev teams.

7. Keep a good relationship with the third parties, keep the third party support coming (e.g. steam)

8. Keep the XMB but clean it up a little, improve the store, google chrome, keep the network free but still keep a premium service (ps+).

9. Just keep adding features and innovating.


10. RAM = 2GB system, 2GB video (at least, 6GB would very nice)



Andrespetmonkey said:
1. An affordable but still powerful console. I don't mind if it's a little pricey at first, gives it long legs, but in this economy maximum launch price should be £350 ($500).

2. Stick to blu-ray, it will obviously read a lot faster in the PS4 since drive speeds have increased and 66gb blu-rays (dual-layer) will become standard in the very near future. BDXL is a possibility (128gb).

3. Stick to the CELL. Improve it ofcourse, more powerful, more spus. Devolopers have come to grips with the structure and a few now know brilliant way's of utilizing it. Also sony has invested a lot into it and it would keep costs down.

4. Good GPU, will most likely be based on the GTX560, maybe something a little better, depending on when PS4 comes out.

5. 320GB and 500GB Hard drives. Solid state is still far too expensive. Game saves stored on the cloud, for all psn users.

6. Keep pumping the awesome exclusives and first party ip. Sony really can't go wrong with this, they own a crapload of talented and experienced dev teams.

7. Keep a good relationship with the third parties, keep the third party support coming (e.g. steam)

8. Keep the XMB but clean it up a little, improve the store, google chrome, keep the network free but still keep a premium service (ps+).

9. Just keep adding features and innovating.

2) Yeah, I agree they should stick to bluray for next gen. The hardware should be cheap now and they could simply concentrate on possibly increasing the size of the discs.

They should keep the structure simple, so developers don't have a hard time out of the box like some did with the PS3.



MasterVG71782 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
1. An affordable but still powerful console. I don't mind if it's a little pricey at first, gives it long legs, but in this economy maximum launch price should be £350 ($500).

2. Stick to blu-ray, it will obviously read a lot faster in the PS4 since drive speeds have increased and 66gb blu-rays (dual-layer) will become standard in the very near future. BDXL is a possibility (128gb).

3. Stick to the CELL. Improve it ofcourse, more powerful, more spus. Devolopers have come to grips with the structure and a few now know brilliant way's of utilizing it. Also sony has invested a lot into it and it would keep costs down.

4. Good GPU, will most likely be based on the GTX560, maybe something a little better, depending on when PS4 comes out.

5. 320GB and 500GB Hard drives. Solid state is still far too expensive. Game saves stored on the cloud, for all psn users.

6. Keep pumping the awesome exclusives and first party ip. Sony really can't go wrong with this, they own a crapload of talented and experienced dev teams.

7. Keep a good relationship with the third parties, keep the third party support coming (e.g. steam)

8. Keep the XMB but clean it up a little, improve the store, google chrome, keep the network free but still keep a premium service (ps+).

9. Just keep adding features and innovating.

2) Yeah, I agree they should stick to bluray for next gen. The hardware should be cheap now and they could simply concentrate on possibly increasing the size of the discs.

They should keep the structure simple, so developers don't have a hard time out of the box like some did with the PS3.

About Blu-Ray, I think they should us BD-XL.

Using BD-XL means they can utilize over 100gb of space for larger next generation games but it's also backwards compatible with normal Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray movies will continue to use the same format and will not be alienated in any way while the games can take advantage of the extra space.



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MasterVG71782 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
1. An affordable but still powerful console. I don't mind if it's a little pricey at first, gives it long legs, but in this economy maximum launch price should be £350 ($500).

2. Stick to blu-ray, it will obviously read a lot faster in the PS4 since drive speeds have increased and 66gb blu-rays (dual-layer) will become standard in the very near future. BDXL is a possibility (128gb).

3. Stick to the CELL. Improve it ofcourse, more powerful, more spus. Devolopers have come to grips with the structure and a few now know brilliant way's of utilizing it. Also sony has invested a lot into it and it would keep costs down.

4. Good GPU, will most likely be based on the GTX560, maybe something a little better, depending on when PS4 comes out.

5. 320GB and 500GB Hard drives. Solid state is still far too expensive. Game saves stored on the cloud, for all psn users.

6. Keep pumping the awesome exclusives and first party ip. Sony really can't go wrong with this, they own a crapload of talented and experienced dev teams.

7. Keep a good relationship with the third parties, keep the third party support coming (e.g. steam)

8. Keep the XMB but clean it up a little, improve the store, google chrome, keep the network free but still keep a premium service (ps+).

9. Just keep adding features and innovating.

2) Yeah, I agree they should stick to bluray for next gen. The hardware should be cheap now and they could simply concentrate on possibly increasing the size of the discs.

They should keep the structure simple, so developers don't have a hard time out of the box like some did with the PS3.

I think the CELL doesn't have the problem of it being complex anymore, because devolopers have experience with it, and if it's improved on and then utilized, it can be a lot more effective than the alternative, a conventional quad core.



brendude13 said:
MasterVG71782 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
1. An affordable but still powerful console. I don't mind if it's a little pricey at first, gives it long legs, but in this economy maximum launch price should be £350 ($500).

2. Stick to blu-ray, it will obviously read a lot faster in the PS4 since drive speeds have increased and 66gb blu-rays (dual-layer) will become standard in the very near future. BDXL is a possibility (128gb).

3. Stick to the CELL. Improve it ofcourse, more powerful, more spus. Devolopers have come to grips with the structure and a few now know brilliant way's of utilizing it. Also sony has invested a lot into it and it would keep costs down.

4. Good GPU, will most likely be based on the GTX560, maybe something a little better, depending on when PS4 comes out.

5. 320GB and 500GB Hard drives. Solid state is still far too expensive. Game saves stored on the cloud, for all psn users.

6. Keep pumping the awesome exclusives and first party ip. Sony really can't go wrong with this, they own a crapload of talented and experienced dev teams.

7. Keep a good relationship with the third parties, keep the third party support coming (e.g. steam)

8. Keep the XMB but clean it up a little, improve the store, google chrome, keep the network free but still keep a premium service (ps+).

9. Just keep adding features and innovating.

2) Yeah, I agree they should stick to bluray for next gen. The hardware should be cheap now and they could simply concentrate on possibly increasing the size of the discs.

They should keep the structure simple, so developers don't have a hard time out of the box like some did with the PS3.

About Blu-Ray, I think they should us BD-XL.

Using BD-XL means they can utilize over 100gb of space for larger next generation games but it's also backwards compatible with normal Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray movies will continue to use the same format and will not be alienated in any way while the games can take advantage of the extra space.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that, Blu-ray also equals easy backwards compatibility :D



Honestly? A $300 price tag, third party support and a continued strong first party lineup.

That will likely be enough to beat the Wii U. It remains to be seen what Microsoft is going to offer.

Let's make a clear distinction here between "What we want the PS4 to be" and "What the PS4 needs to be", because although there is an overlap, they are not the same thing. For example: improved RAM and an updated GPU will probably not affect sales at all.



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Andrespetmonkey said:

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that, Blu-ray also equals easy backwards compatibility :D

Well, the PS3 plays DVDs like the PS2 did, and look how that turned out.

Backwards compatibility is a lot more than just a matter of disc format. You have to emulate or replicate the entire system architecture.



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Yeah, Bluray does mean easy backwards compatibility. I also hope that Sony keeps the same kind of online infrastructure, so there will be backwards compatibility with PSN games.