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mantlepiecek on 26 September 2011
selnor said:

To be honest  

 

ELDER SCROLLS 5 SKYRIM

I have absolutely  no  room for Demon Souls right now. And   know for a FACT its not that hard. I know 3 who have put 60 + hours in and they didnt find it THAT hard. Also they said the game was good but no Oblivion. 

 

So I will play next year sometime. 

Much better games  coming to 360 in the near future. Mass Effect 3 and Skyrim will hold my RPG crown.

Demon's souls is like, easily better than oblivion. Oblivion only has freedom, whereas demon's souls has a little bit of freedom with epic combat and boss battles. The atmosphere in demon's souls is on another level, and it doesn't repeat dungeons like oblivion does, each and every level looks different from the previous one. What's the point in having an open world where everything looks similar? Although its still fun if you ignore that.

Oblivion is good for people who like exploring but when it comes to everything else, demon's souls wins. Even the story.

Also you know for a fact that its not hard, and the evidence supporting your fact is your friends playing the game? lol.



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Jay520 on 26 September 2011
mantlepiecek said:
selnor said:

To be honest  

 

ELDER SCROLLS 5 SKYRIM

I have absolutely  no  room for Demon Souls right now. And   know for a FACT its not that hard. I know 3 who have put 60 + hours in and they didnt find it THAT hard. Also they said the game was good but no Oblivion. 

 

So I will play next year sometime. 

Much better games  coming to 360 in the near future. Mass Effect 3 and Skyrim will hold my RPG crown.

Demon's souls is like, easily better than oblivion. Oblivion only has freedom, whereas demon's souls has a little bit of freedom with epic combat and boss battles. The atmosphere in demon's souls is on another level, and it doesn't repeat dungeons like oblivion does, each and every level looks different from the previous one. What's the point in having an open world where everything looks similar? Although its still fun if you ignore that.

Oblivion is good for people who like exploring but when it comes to everything else, demon's souls wins. Even the story.

Also you know for a fact that its not hard, and the evidence supporting your fact is your friends playing the game? lol.



Took the words right out of my mouth.

selnor on 26 September 2011
mantlepiecek said:
selnor said:

To be honest  

 

ELDER SCROLLS 5 SKYRIM

I have absolutely  no  room for Demon Souls right now. And   know for a FACT its not that hard. I know 3 who have put 60 + hours in and they didnt find it THAT hard. Also they said the game was good but no Oblivion. 

 

So I will play next year sometime. 

Much better games  coming to 360 in the near future. Mass Effect 3 and Skyrim will hold my RPG crown.

Demon's souls is like, easily better than oblivion. Oblivion only has freedom, whereas demon's souls has a little bit of freedom with epic combat and boss battles. The atmosphere in demon's souls is on another level, and it doesn't repeat dungeons like oblivion does, each and every level looks different from the previous one. What's the point in having an open world where everything looks similar? Although its still fun if you ignore that.

Oblivion is good for people who like exploring but when it comes to everything else, demon's souls wins. Even the story.

Also you know for a fact that its not hard, and the evidence supporting your fact is your friends playing the game? lol.

Alot of game reviewers claim gams to be hard. When  me nd my friends dont find them hard per se. Challenging yes, but to say poor Xbox players is rediculous. Xbox players are hardcore players in general. 

OT of Demon Souls over Oblivion, I put in about 250 hours into Oblivion. If Demon Souls can do that then I'm there. I'll wait though based on my friends  description of the game. Much more games I'm interested in  than DS right now. Story is great and all, but RPG's should be engaging on all fronts. And from what I understand theres better out there than DS.  



GameOver22 on 26 September 2011
trasharmdsister12 said:
Simple question for those who have played Demon Souls and Ninja Gaiden 1/Black for Xbox. Which game has more difficult combat/encounters when you first attempt the game? I'm wondering which of these has harder fights? I'm not talking about how the design of the game influences its overall challenge (ie. Not being able to save for long periods of time), but just the encounters and battles themselves the first time you go at them.

I would personally say Ninja Gaiden. While I do think some people in this thread are underrating Demon's Souls difficulty, it is still a challenging game, but a lot of the difficulty comes down to strategy more than skill. Ninja Gaiden requires combat mastery and quick reactions. Demon's Souls requires the same but to a lesser extent. To me, it is much more forgiving if you are talking about a first playthrough, especially with the plethora of healing items and the ability to summon other people. Now, if you are talking about higher difficulties, Ninja Gaiden easily takes the crown.



Michelasso on 27 September 2011
selnor said:

Alot of game reviewers claim gams to be hard. When  me nd my friends dont find them hard per se. Challenging yes, but to say poor Xbox players is rediculous. Xbox players are hardcore players in general. 

OT of Demon Souls over Oblivion, I put in about 250 hours into Oblivion. If Demon Souls can do that then I'm there. I'll wait though based on my friends  description of the game. Much more games I'm interested in  than DS right now. Story is great and all, but RPG's should be engaging on all fronts. And from what I understand theres better out there than DS.  


XBox players mostly are a bunch of kids playing Halo and CoD. Check the top 10 X360 titles in this very same site. I would hardly define FPS players as "hardcore players".

Regarding the gameplay time I spent 400 hours in Oblivion and 300 or so in Demons Soul's. But I also had my PS3 failing so I lost all my gamesaves (talking about my shitty situations..). A clean gameplay for Platinum in DS requires 3 rounds and a half to get all magics, miracles and similar. With tricks it can be done in half the time. Still both have a good replay value. DS, being online, is also fun to replay to build very specialized characters for invasions /that I gave up).

Interesting enough (I think that it was IGN claiming so), Dark Souls seems to have more content than Skyrim. After 60 hours playing IGN said they kept metting new kind of monsters in different enviroments, while, as we know, the Elder Scroll keeps repeating the kind of enemies.

Ok, I've found it, it is actually all over the internet. For example check http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/119/1196353p2.html

Last thing: Bethesda as usual is exploiting the use of DLCs. I decided that since now on I won't ever buy again a Bethesda game on day 1, but I will wait for the GOTY version with all DLC, and especially bug fixes, included. I know Oblivion was much more stable that the 2 Fallout, but still I am totally sick of Bethesda way of milking money. Dark Souls will come with no DLC ever. Like DS. There simply is no need for it. Play the game, beat it and then move forward.

Said that don't get me wrong. I will buy Skyrim after the full game is out and after the price drop. But I preordered Dark Souls. Special Edition with the bonus content. All together it costs 43 euro instead of 60. So even the price is better!



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ishiki on 27 September 2011
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
xinstantnoodlez said:
I wonder if Dark Souls will have a pause button....


No, there still isn't one.

I have to say I think they are absolutely retarded dicks for not putting a pause button in TBH.

That is the thing I hate most about these games because I have to pause games quite often to do other things or because i'm interrupted.

I do think it's so people can't pause when they're getting invaded/invading.

But I think, they should let you pause it otherwise imo. So I agree.



D-Joe on 27 September 2011
Michelasso said:
selnor said:

Alot of game reviewers claim gams to be hard. When  me nd my friends dont find them hard per se. Challenging yes, but to say poor Xbox players is rediculous. Xbox players are hardcore players in general. 

OT of Demon Souls over Oblivion, I put in about 250 hours into Oblivion. If Demon Souls can do that then I'm there. I'll wait though based on my friends  description of the game. Much more games I'm interested in  than DS right now. Story is great and all, but RPG's should be engaging on all fronts. And from what I understand theres better out there than DS.  


XBox players mostly are a bunch of kids playing Halo and CoD. Check the top 10 X360 titles in this very same site. I would hardly define FPS players as "hardcore players".

Regarding the gameplay time I spent 400 hours in Oblivion and 300 or so in Demons Soul's. But I also had my PS3 failing so I lost all my gamesaves (talking about my shitty situations..). A clean gameplay for Platinum in DS requires 3 rounds and a half to get all magics, miracles and similar. With tricks it can be done in half the time. Still both have a good replay value. DS, being online, is also fun to replay to build very specialized characters for invasions /that I gave up).

Interesting enough (I think that it was IGN claiming so), Dark Souls seems to have more content than Skyrim. After 60 hours playing IGN said they kept metting new kind of monsters in different enviroments, while, as we know, the Elder Scroll keeps repeating the kind of enemies.

Ok, I've found it, it is actually all over the internet. For example check http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/119/1196353p2.html

Last thing: Bethesda as usual is exploiting the use of DLCs. I decided that since now on I won't ever buy again a Bethesda game on day 1, but I will wait for the GOTY version with all DLC, and especially bug fixes, included. I know Oblivion was much more stable that the 2 Fallout, but still I am totally sick of Bethesda way of milking money. Dark Souls will come with no DLC ever. Like DS. There simply is no need for it. Play the game, beat it and then move forward.

Said that don't get me wrong. I will buy Skyrim after the full game is out and after the price drop. But I preordered Dark Souls. Special Edition with the bonus content. All together it costs 43 euro instead of 60. So even the price is better!

so is your Demons Souls in PS3 top 10 sales or COD not in PS3 top 10 sales



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Jay520 on 27 September 2011
D-Joe said:
Michelasso said:
selnor said:

Alot of game reviewers claim gams to be hard. When  me nd my friends dont find them hard per se. Challenging yes, but to say poor Xbox players is rediculous. Xbox players are hardcore players in general. 

OT of Demon Souls over Oblivion, I put in about 250 hours into Oblivion. If Demon Souls can do that then I'm there. I'll wait though based on my friends  description of the game. Much more games I'm interested in  than DS right now. Story is great and all, but RPG's should be engaging on all fronts. And from what I understand theres better out there than DS.  


XBox players mostly are a bunch of kids playing Halo and CoD. Check the top 10 X360 titles in this very same site. I would hardly define FPS players as "hardcore players".

Regarding the gameplay time I spent 400 hours in Oblivion and 300 or so in Demons Soul's. But I also had my PS3 failing so I lost all my gamesaves (talking about my shitty situations..). A clean gameplay for Platinum in DS requires 3 rounds and a half to get all magics, miracles and similar. With tricks it can be done in half the time. Still both have a good replay value. DS, being online, is also fun to replay to build very specialized characters for invasions /that I gave up).

Interesting enough (I think that it was IGN claiming so), Dark Souls seems to have more content than Skyrim. After 60 hours playing IGN said they kept metting new kind of monsters in different enviroments, while, as we know, the Elder Scroll keeps repeating the kind of enemies.

Ok, I've found it, it is actually all over the internet. For example check

Last thing: Bethesda as usual is exploiting the use of DLCs. I decided that since now on I won't ever buy again a Bethesda game on day 1, but I will wait for the GOTY version with all DLC, and especially bug fixes, included. I know Oblivion was much more stable that the 2 Fallout, but still I am totally sick of Bethesda way of milking money. Dark Souls will come with no DLC ever. Like DS. There simply is no need for it. Play the game, beat it and then move forward.

Said that don't get me wrong. I will buy Skyrim after the full game is out and after the price drop. But I preordered Dark Souls. Special Edition with the bonus content. All together it costs 43 euro instead of 60. So even the price is better!

so is your Demons Souls in PS3 top 10 sales or COD not in PS3 top 10 sales



No, but that doesn't refute his point though. Both PS3 & 360 owners are casual.

ctalkeb on 27 September 2011

Seriously guys, seriously!!??

Console wars? Skyrim vs. Dark Souls???

1: Let's face it, all consoles have all kinds of users, from ultra-obsessive to easy mode on a Sunday afternoon.

2: Why would anyone who isn't even (a) being silly or (b) trying to get clicks/publicity want to compare two games that aren't even remotely similar, except for, superficially, setting?

C'mon, it's like going "RISK is a way deeper and more strategic game than Street Fighter!!11!1oneone!"



Jay520 on 27 September 2011
selnor said:
mantlepiecek said:
selnor said:

To be honest  

 

ELDER SCROLLS 5 SKYRIM

I have absolutely  no  room for Demon Souls right now. And   know for a FACT its not that hard. I know 3 who have put 60 + hours in and they didnt find it THAT hard. Also they said the game was good but no Oblivion. 

 

So I will play next year sometime. 

Much better games  coming to 360 in the near future. Mass Effect 3 and Skyrim will hold my RPG crown.

Demon's souls is like, easily better than oblivion. Oblivion only has freedom, whereas demon's souls has a little bit of freedom with epic combat and boss battles. The atmosphere in demon's souls is on another level, and it doesn't repeat dungeons like oblivion does, each and every level looks different from the previous one. What's the point in having an open world where everything looks similar? Although its still fun if you ignore that.

Oblivion is good for people who like exploring but when it comes to everything else, demon's souls wins. Even the story.

Also you know for a fact that its not hard, and the evidence supporting your fact is your friends playing the game? lol.
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Alot of game reviewers claim gams to be hard. When  me nd my friends dont find them hard per se. Challenging yes, but to say poor Xbox players is rediculous. Xbox players are hardcore players in general. 

OT of Demon Souls over Oblivion, I put in about 250 hours into Oblivion. If Demon Souls can do that then I'm there. I'll wait though based on my friends  description of the game. Much more games I'm interested in  than DS right now. Story is great and all, but RPG's should be engaging on all fronts. And from what I understand theres better out there than DS.  



I can understand your opinion for like TES more, but your reasons are questionable.

You say 'you and your friends' don't find the game hard. This statement is fishy because you implied that you have never played Demon's Souls when you said you had no time for the game. When he said poor Xbox players, I'm pretty sure he was just joking around. And I don't know what you mean when you say 'xbox players are hardcore in general'. You can take a look at sales and you'll see that the general xbox player is rather casual. Just like Ps3.

And while one can put more hours into TES, that doesn't mean it's a better game. Some of the best RPG's out there are only 30-40 hours per playthrough. Mass Effect will likely be in that range, yet you still say you're hype for it. You've shown that you care more about the quality of a game rather than the length so I don't know why you're using length as a factor against DS.

And then you say a game should be engaging on all fronts, yet you praise TES even though it's known to have a problem with reptition. Yet you use it against DS by saying length is a factor even though you're a huge fan of Mass Effect even though that's known to be relatively short.