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perhaps having more (read: actually having some) diversity of thought, among these "journalists" would help.
the articles and editorials on this site are a joke.

though to be fair the game reviews are pretty good, like the recent Resistance 3 one



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axumblade said:
PhalanxCO said:
I should add to my comments that I have nothing against the site itself, and I don't question the moral integrity of the reviewers. I guess my biggest issues are with the quality of the editorials and how they seem to simply exist to draw traffic.

Your issue with the editorials is rooted with 1 writer. There are plenty of other writers who do not write the same way that he does. Or that's what it's seemed like to me.

There are a lot of writers that I haven't agreed with in the past BUT it's opinions when it comes down to it.


Quite possibly. I didn't mean to lump all the editorial writers together and apologize if I have. Like I told ioi, I pretty much only read the Nintendo articles, so perhaps that has colored my opinion.



Vgchartz has some of the best reviews in my opinion and some of their other articles i like some i don't. Though none are offensive or anything so i don't see the problem there.



I've run reviews on this site for years from every possible position, back from when it wasn't even an official part of the site and something we just stuck in the news to the present condition of being one of the largest sections of VGChartz. We have reviewed more than 700 games, and I have reviewed, edited, and done PR for the site during ALL of those, and I can tell you as a member of this community long before I ever reviewed anything up to the management position I am in now we have never ever ever been pressured to improve a score for ANY reason, advertising or advertorials included.

I have no idea what happened between Joseph and Chris, but I promise you that you can ask any person who's ever written a single review for the site and they can tell you the same, past or present reviewers. There are dozens of people, some of whom didn't leave on the best of terms, but there was never a time that we let anything influence our content or scores to appease an advertiser or publisher.



Review wise VGC is imo genuinely the most reliable website and the one with which I relate the most. There's only a few reviews and score that I disagree on but the vast majority of them are very accurate.

So there's no issue with the reviews as far as I'm concerned.



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Boutros said:
Runa216 said:
no, b ut I gave it a 2.1....and that's not trolling, I can back it up.  

You're SSDNINJA?


oh hell no! don't know the guy, I just know I'm not him.  I'm just a guy who really, really hates Final Fantasy XIII, and have spent a lot of time justifying that hate beyond just "BAWWWW, IT'S NOT WHAT I LIKE!"  



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ioi said:

Let us straighten this out:

  1. As part of the 3 day ad-takeovers and advertorials (15th April, 10th June and 17th June) I told Chris that we should avoid writing any features that would be strongly negative about those games. This had nothing to do with reviews or our personal feeling on titles as expressed in editorials / previews or reviews, all I said was for those 3 days only we avoid featuring any major negative stories (if they were to arise) about the game being featured on that day. For example, if we had an editorial on Killzone 3 planned that was going to attack an element of the game, we would chose a day other than the 15th April Killzone takeover day. I don't feel this is misleading - it isn't censoring our opinions or presenting anything in a misleading way to our readers it is just being sensible and planning the timing of our articles. The key here isn't that I said not to write anything negative at all, just not on that day - the following day would have been absolutely fine.

 

But if it's launch week for a game or its DLC, that's the week that your readers need to know the full scoop on content, as it's the week that most of us, as hardcore gamers, would buy that game/content.  I've seen plenty of sites that have ads for a game right next to a link to a scathing review or article with criticisms.  (Naughty Bear comes to mind as one off the top of my head.)  This to me is no different than taking money for a review score or making deals for flattering preview coverage.  

I guess it depends on what you define the mission of your site as.  If it's just entertainment, then so be it.  But if it's supposed to be a useful service in terms of honest information and opinion, this damages your credibility greatly.  The work you've done over the years to legitimize your numbers, for example, is something much more easily taken away than earned.  Credibility takes alifetime to build and only seconds to lose.  

Just ask Gamespot and Jeff Gerstmann.



Can't we all just get along and play our games in peace?

some users are being needlessly critical. one thing you'll never know is when a deal like this Sony gillette thing goes down or when the news comes in and when its scheduled to be posted.

at the end of the day this site makes money for profit and to improve the site and community features. withholding info is not wht happened here as the info would have been released after the deal.

its not like money was handed to Bret to completely by pass, sugar coat, change or post misleading information. if there was any info regarding these games then it was posted when ready or deals had been done.

if people want to piss then go ahead cause a breach of contract is costly in the end. yea sure the site may have have gotten more hits, but financially it likely would have hurt the community just based simply on breach of contract.(need i explain more?)

its not like Bret was sitting on any info before the deal was signed, so the integrity of the site IMO should not be in jeopardy for this but we know it is and i'm sure we'll likely here about it on the other sites we go to.



So it seems many are trying to blow this out of proportion.

And in all honesty the article sounds like someone who is just out to get Vgchartz.



This will prove to be most entertaining over the next few days.