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Do you? DO YOU?!

Yes 27 20.30%
 
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Too early to tell 18 13.53%
 
It'll be most effective in the holiday! 21 15.79%
 
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RolStoppable said:
Machina said:

Seeing as Nintendo seem to want the Wii to die off as soon as possible given their abandonment of it, I would say yes, it's had the desired effect.

This.

...and now... um... how do I make this post look less like spam...

Nintendo is ruled by egomaniacs who would rather take out the sword of The Legend of Zelda than making it use proper motion controls. Set Skyward Sword up for failure, then declare that Wii U is the right direction to go, because sales of SS and the Wii itself were disappointing in late 2011.

what do you mean take out the sword??

I've been on a self-imposed media blackout for this game since E3...



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Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Yes absolutely.

Nintendo wanted to show the game industry for the last time that NSMB Wii, SOFTWARE, can sell more consoles than a $100 price cut on the 'hottest' console ever made. What this means is that if they had half of Nintendo's talent they could all be billionairres on 2 or 3 games.

Edit: Those 2 or 3 games don't include Xenoblade or Pandora's whatever.

lol what a joke of a post

You don't agree that NSMB Wii had a bigger effect than both price cuts combined?

This price cut  yes, last price cut, no. I'm on the side of the fence that believes the price cut pushed sales for Wii that holiday and NSMB was just the game to get at the time, not that NSMB actually caused millions to go out and get a wii. This price cut has been pretty fail though, I'd say most big games, Halo 3, MGS4 ect have had more HW boosting impact than this Wii price cut

You don't agree that only Nintendo and Activision have the talent to make 10-25M sellers on a consistent basis?

'Talent' it's nothing to do with talent, always clinging onto that huh? If you mean capabilites to appeal to a wide casual audience (relatively for MW/COD) then yeah, Nintendo has that in the bag

Or, you don't agree that Nintendo was trying to prove a point?

And no they wern't, what an absurd reason to do a price cut ... I don't even see any logic in that whatsoever. Then again you come out with some irrational rubbish at times.





 

Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Yes absolutely.

Nintendo wanted to show the game industry for the last time that NSMB Wii, SOFTWARE, can sell more consoles than a $100 price cut on the 'hottest' console ever made. What this means is that if they had half of Nintendo's talent they could all be billionairres on 2 or 3 games.

Edit: Those 2 or 3 games don't include Xenoblade or Pandora's whatever.

lol what a joke of a post

You don't agree that NSMB Wii had a bigger effect than both price cuts combined?

This price cut  yes, last price cut, no. I'm on the side of the fence that believes the price cut pushed sales for Wii that holiday and NSMB was just the game to get at the time, not that NSMB actually caused millions to go out and get a wii. This price cut has been pretty fail though, I'd say most big games, Halo 3, MGS4 ect have had more HW boosting impact than this Wii price cut

You don't agree that only Nintendo and Activision have the talent to make 10-25M sellers on a consistent basis?

'Talent' it's nothing to do with talent, always clinging onto that huh? If you mean capabilites to appeal to a wide casual audience (relatively for MW/COD) then yeah, Nintendo has that in the bag

Or, you don't agree that Nintendo was trying to prove a point?

And no they wern't, what an absurd reason to do a price cut ... I don't even see any logic in that whatsoever. Then again you come out with some irrational rubbish at times.




The game that started it all, the one we haven't seen for 20 years, the biggest system seller ever, fastest to 10M, faster than Wii Sports, Fit, Kart, Brain Training, Nintendogs, GT, GTA.........doesn't sell more systems than a price cut, right?

Appealing to everybody doesn't require talent, right?

I think you pretty much defined irrational rubbish there Seece.



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Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Yes absolutely.

Nintendo wanted to show the game industry for the last time that NSMB Wii, SOFTWARE, can sell more consoles than a $100 price cut on the 'hottest' console ever made. What this means is that if they had half of Nintendo's talent they could all be billionairres on 2 or 3 games.

Edit: Those 2 or 3 games don't include Xenoblade or Pandora's whatever.

lol what a joke of a post

You don't agree that NSMB Wii had a bigger effect than both price cuts combined?

This price cut  yes, last price cut, no. I'm on the side of the fence that believes the price cut pushed sales for Wii that holiday and NSMB was just the game to get at the time, not that NSMB actually caused millions to go out and get a wii. This price cut has been pretty fail though, I'd say most big games, Halo 3, MGS4 ect have had more HW boosting impact than this Wii price cut

You don't agree that only Nintendo and Activision have the talent to make 10-25M sellers on a consistent basis?

'Talent' it's nothing to do with talent, always clinging onto that huh? If you mean capabilites to appeal to a wide casual audience (relatively for MW/COD) then yeah, Nintendo has that in the bag

Or, you don't agree that Nintendo was trying to prove a point?

And no they wern't, what an absurd reason to do a price cut ... I don't even see any logic in that whatsoever. Then again you come out with some irrational rubbish at times.




The game that started it all, the one we haven't seen for 20 years, the biggest system seller ever, fastest to 10M, faster than Wii Sports, Fit, Kart, Brain Training, Nintendogs, GT, GTA.........doesn't sell more systems than a price cut, right?

Indeed.

Appealing to everybody doesn't require talent, right?

I don't think it's a talent no, I think it's luck when something gets that big, a craze.  Like Angry Birds.

I think you pretty much defined irrational rubbish there Seece.





 

RolStoppable said:
gumby_trucker said:

what do you mean take out the sword??

I've been on a self-imposed media blackout for this game since E3...

Well, the first artwork for the Wii Zelda game showed Link without a sword, but a character (a girl) who could be the sword. In The Wind Waker, the first dungeon had to be played without a sword.

The thing is that Aonuma who is in charge of the Zelda series does not like sword combat and thus keeps moving in a direction where combat becomes less important in order to focus more on the "interesting" parts. For an actual Zelda fan, the whole series is built around sword combat, because that's Link's main weapon. But for Aonuma the sword is more of an obstacle than a fundamental part of the gameplay. If he could take out the sword, he would. He doesn't like reflex based gameplay, because he sucks at it. As such, the more control he gets over the Zelda series, the worse the games turn out to be. That would be the two DS games.

Fortunately, the home console versions are of higher importance, so Aonuma has less of a final say on these projects. Considering how long of a development cycle Skyward Sword had, I wouldn't rule it out that the game looked vastly different two years ago than it does today. In other words, it's possible that a greater emphasis on motion controls wasn't originally intended, but then Miyamoto or Iwata stepped in and ordered that the game needs to change. That was a while ago though, when Nintendo still had some senses. Nowadays they really do whatever they feel like, whether it makes business sense or not.

Got it... I was afraid you knew something about the final game that I didn't...

Regarding SS, it has indeed been mentioned in numerous interviews that Aonuma wasn't too keen on using motion-plus, until Miyamoto came to him in 2009 and said something along the lines of: "if Wii Sports Resort can do it, so can Zelda". AFAIK it was also Miyamoto's idea to change the art style from the one TP had to what we have to day.

I think Aonuma is kind of burned out, after making the same game over and over again for so many years that's understandable. I mean making one Zelda nowadays already sounds like a taxing experience to me. Games like Spirit Tracks and Crossbow Training are probably him looking to do something different as a developer. It has also been said that he wanted to make a sequel to Crossbow Training with online, but was told to "focus on Zelda". Poor man really deserves to be given some freedom to work on a different franchise...

Just out of curiosity, who within Nintendo would you like to see work on Zelda in his place? (Don't be like everybody else and answer "Retro" )



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Luck?

You serious?

Does that apply to Spielberg, Michael Jackson, the Beatles, Elvis, Shakespeare etc as well?

It doesn't suprise you that these people are consistently 'lucky' for some reason?



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Pyro as Bill said:
Luck?

You serious?

Does that apply to Spielberg, Michael Jackson, the Beatles, Elvis, Shakespeare etc as well?

It doesn't suprise you that these people are consistently 'lucky' for some reason?

No I was talking more Kesha, Transformers and Katie Price Autobiography.



 

Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Luck?

You serious?

Does that apply to Spielberg, Michael Jackson, the Beatles, Elvis, Shakespeare etc as well?

It doesn't suprise you that these people are consistently 'lucky' for some reason?

No I was talking more Kesha, Transformers and Katie Price Autobiography.


Jordan's autobiography?

Stop with the irrational rubbish Seece. I'm assuming Halo is excluded from the 'luck' excuse or are Bungie talentless luckfests too?



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

The fastest game to 10 Million is Black Ops. Just saying.

2nd fastest was MW2.

:)

Oh, and Wii Sports was a far bigger system seller than NSMB. Mario Kart and Wii Fit probably were too.



                            

Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Luck?

You serious?

Does that apply to Spielberg, Michael Jackson, the Beatles, Elvis, Shakespeare etc as well?

It doesn't suprise you that these people are consistently 'lucky' for some reason?

No I was talking more Kesha, Transformers and Katie Price Autobiography.


Jordan's autobiography?

Stop with the irrational rubbish Seece. I'm assuming Halo is excluded from the 'luck' excuse or are Bungie talentless luckfests too?

Halo isn't actually that big, but on that note, I don't actually rate Bungie since CE