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Mad55 on 15 July 2011
o_O.Q said:
HappySqurriel said:
While he may be techically correct, the PS Vita and PS3/PS4 will not be used like the Wii U on a wide scale because no developer can count on a PS3/PS4 owner having a PS Vita and vice versa. On top of that, the Wii U will probably be in a price range where the unit as a whole is close to half the price of the PS Vita and PS3/PS4 combined.


"the Wii U will probably be in a price range where the unit as a whole is close to half the price of the PS Vita and PS3/PS4 combined."

vita = $250, ps3 = $300 vita + ps3 = $550 / 2 = $225

i highly doubt the wii u will be this cheap i'd say probably  $350 - $400 

then if we factor in price drops of $50 - $100 off the ps3 before the wii u launches vita + ps3 = $450 - $500 ( which is much closer than your estimate )

i dont really think the wiiu will be 400, im thinking 300-350

also the ps3/vita thing depends on which version is gotten right

vita = $250, ps3 = $300 vita + ps3 = $550 / 2 = $225

vita 3g= $300, ps3-320gig = $350(ithink) vita + ps3 = $650 / 2 = $225=325

though regardless, if your really looking for that dual screen experience the wiiU is built around it so i see that as being the better bet.



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glimmer_of_hope on 15 July 2011

Here we go again, why do people keep posting threads on a Sony owned game company dissing Nintendo. Do you think a Sony company would say "Ya that Wii U will sell great"
Pffff what a clown joke this is ! If you want to add a non bias comment, why not add the comments from all the recent Devs praising Wii U....but you wouldn't want to share that with people would you?? So disgusting



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o_O.Q on 15 July 2011
glimmer_of_hope said:
Here we go again, why do people keep posting threads on a Sony owned game company dissing Nintendo. Do you think a Sony company would say "Ya that Wii U will sell great"
Pffff what a clown joke this is ! If you want to add a non bias comment, why not add the comments from all the recent Devs praising Wii U....but you wouldn't want to share that with people would you?? So disgusting

"a Sony owned game company dissing Nintendo" ...um this isn't about "dissing" or whatever this is about discussing the capabilities of these devices take it easy bro



blkfish92 on 15 July 2011

Yep title makes sense.



           

Play4Fun on 15 July 2011
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
No ND.

PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can, nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can.

And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4.

The again, this is what you would expect them to say about the competition.


while i agree with this "And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4."

1. "PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can" im cuirious as to why you say this since the psp was already capable of this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

2. "nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can" i'd also like to know how you know that who says the motion sensing on vita isn't better?


 1. Vita and PS3 aren't really designed for full streaming on the level of Wii U. Unless they forsaw this when they made PS3 and all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR.

Plus PSV as PS3 controller is comparable to 3DS as  a Wii U controller, which is impractical to what the Wii U pad is.

2. PSV doesn't have a standard reference point like the sensor bar for motion tracking. I doubt PSV can do something like the golf sequence in the demo shown at E3. The sensor bar on the controller can even be used for wii remotes.

" There's also a sensor bar on the new controller, so your Wii remotes could read off of that "

 PSV may have some similar functionalities to the Wii U pad but there are a number of different ways Wii U can be used that PSV is limited or lacking in.



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o_O.Q on 15 July 2011
Mad55 said:
o_O.Q said:
HappySqurriel said:
While he may be techically correct, the PS Vita and PS3/PS4 will not be used like the Wii U on a wide scale because no developer can count on a PS3/PS4 owner having a PS Vita and vice versa. On top of that, the Wii U will probably be in a price range where the unit as a whole is close to half the price of the PS Vita and PS3/PS4 combined.


"the Wii U will probably be in a price range where the unit as a whole is close to half the price of the PS Vita and PS3/PS4 combined."

vita = $250, ps3 = $300 vita + ps3 = $550 / 2 = $225

i highly doubt the wii u will be this cheap i'd say probably  $350 - $400 

then if we factor in price drops of $50 - $100 off the ps3 before the wii u launches vita + ps3 = $450 - $500 ( which is much closer than your estimate )

i dont really think the wiiu will be 400, im thinking 300-350

also the ps3/vita thing depends on which version is gotten right

vita = $250, ps3 = $300 vita + ps3 = $550 / 2 = $225

vita 3g= $300, ps3-320gig = $350(ithink) vita + ps3 = $650 / 2 = $225=325

though regardless, if your really looking for that dual screen experience the wiiU is built around it so i see that as being the better bet.


"vita 3g= $300, ps3-320gig = $350(ithink) vita + ps3 = $650 / 2 = $225=325"

ps3s cost $300 now and i expect that the price will drop to $250 or $200 before the wii u launches

the wifi model is the most popular model ( among the comments i've seen) thats how i arrived at this $550 or $450 after price drops

also "i dont really think the wiiu will be 400, im thinking 300-350" really? the controller itself looks like it could cost over $100... ereaders like the kindle with black and white display, no cams, mics etc cost over $100 already is it really likely the controller on this thing will be less? and thats just the controller then theres the fact that nintendo prefers to gain profit  on their consoles unlike sony and microsoft



Crazymann on 15 July 2011

Well, alert the media, a Sony developer downplays the importance of a competiting platform ... OH MY GOD!

On a different note, wow so the PS3 and Vita two separate systems can accomplish the same thing as one system. Damn, Nintendo must be pissed that 2 of their competitor's systems TOGETHER have the same functionality as a single WiiU*.

We also must assume that ND was not talking about graphics because, while the final specs are not known, they will be at the very least as powerful as PS3 but with more memory, and even teh C3LL cannot overcome that bottleneck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*  Yes, I know that Ps3/Vita will have more overall functionality.  Hell, it's going to be cool... BUT it will be different as they are two disparate systems that CAN link as opposed to a single system designed that way from the ground up.



o_O.Q on 15 July 2011
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
No ND.

PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can, nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can.

And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4.

The again, this is what you would expect them to say about the competition.


while i agree with this "And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4."

1. "PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can" im cuirious as to why you say this since the psp was already capable of this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

2. "nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can" i'd also like to know how you know that who says the motion sensing on vita isn't better?


 1. Vita and PS3 aren't really designed for full streaming on the level of Wii U. Unless they forsaw this when they made PS3 and all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR.

Plus PSV as PS3 controller is comparable to 3DS as  a Wii U controller, which is impractical to what the Wii U pad is.

2. PSV doesn't have a standard reference point like the sensor bar for motion tracking. I doubt PSV can do something like the golf sequence in the demo shown at E3. The sensor bar on the controller can even be used for wii remotes.

" There's also a sensor bar on the new controller, so your Wii remotes could read off of that "

 PSV may have some similar functionalities to the Wii U pad but there are a number of different ways Wii U can be used that PSV is limited in.


1. "all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR."

i don't follow... it was a feature called remote play possible between any ps3 and psp shown here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I ( thats someone playing a ps3 game on psp )

2. "PSV doesn't have a standard reference point like the sensor bar for motion tracking"

i'm no expert on this technology but i wouldn't say that nintendo's method is the only way of achieving this and that there are no other ways to possibly replicate it can you? it ( the vita ) has cams, gps, an internal compass etc who says none of ithese features can achieve what you described




ethomaz on 15 July 2011
o_O.Q said:
1. "all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR."

i don't follow... it was a feature called remote play possible between any ps3 and psp shown here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I ( thats someone playing a ps3 game on psp )

To be fair the Remote Play works with Sony Vaio notebooks too... and streaming in HD (way more than 480p)... and yes, without noticeable lag.



ethomaz on 15 July 2011

Yes. The PS3 and Vita integration could do all the things Wii U do.

The problem is the games to support it... in Wii U every game will support it... but every game will support PS3 and Vita integration? I guess not.