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V-r0cK on 15 July 2011
glimmer_of_hope said:
Here we go again, why do people keep posting threads on a Sony owned game company dissing Nintendo. Do you think a Sony company would say "Ya that Wii U will sell great"
Pffff what a clown joke this is ! If you want to add a non bias comment, why not add the comments from all the recent Devs praising Wii U....but you wouldn't want to share that with people would you?? So disgusting

Seeing your avatar im not surprised about your comment, but clearly you`re overthinking this and taking it way too seriously.



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bazmeistergen on 15 July 2011

So, he is claiming the Vita can work in tandem with the Move controller? The Wii U tablet has an infra-red bar so the wiimotes can sense where it is...



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Play4Fun on 15 July 2011
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
No ND.

PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can, nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can.

And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4.

The again, this is what you would expect them to say about the competition.


while i agree with this "And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4."

1. "PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can" im cuirious as to why you say this since the psp was already capable of this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

2. "nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can" i'd also like to know how you know that who says the motion sensing on vita isn't better?


 1. Vita and PS3 aren't really designed for full streaming on the level of Wii U. Unless they forsaw this when they made PS3 and all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR.

Plus PSV as PS3 controller is comparable to 3DS as  a Wii U controller, which is impractical to what the Wii U pad is.

2. PSV doesn't have a standard reference point like the sensor bar for motion tracking. I doubt PSV can do something like the golf sequence in the demo shown at E3. The sensor bar on the controller can even be used for wii remotes.

" There's also a sensor bar on the new controller, so your Wii remotes could read off of that "

 PSV may have some similar functionalities to the Wii U pad but there are a number of different ways Wii U can be used that PSV is limited in.


1. "all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR."

i don't follow... it was a feature called remote play possible between any ps3 and psp shown here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I ( thats someone playing a ps3 game on psp )

2. "PSV doesn't have a standard reference point like the sensor bar for motion tracking"

i'm no expert on this technology but i wouldn't say that nintendo's method is the only way of achieving this and that there are no other ways to possibly replicate it can you? it ( the vita ) has cams, gps, an internal compass etc who says none of ithese features can achieve what you described


The Vita is incapable of providing the same level of fidelity in streaming functionality . The Wii U method of streaming is better and more efficient than what PSV offers by virtue of the hardware being built especially for it.

So people who think PS3/Vita can do what the WiiU can, they're technically in the right, I suppose, but not feasible at all. Sony will probably build PS4 to take better advantage of streaming with Vita than PS3 is capable of but even then it won't be exactly on par with Wii U. That's not what Sony will be pushing next gen anyways.

Like i said before,  PSV may have some similar functionalities to the Wii U pad but there are a number of different ways Wii U can be used that PSV is limited or lacking in.

 At the end of the day it's Wii U that will be getting the better support and that's what really matters.



scottie on 15 July 2011

@ OP

When you are quoting something, put in in speech marks. This is particularly important if you are quoting something against the forum rules. It is slightly odd, because you are quoting someone that is quoting someone. You are lucky that I took the time to visit your link, instead of simply reporting you.

I'm sure if you edit it to show that it is a quotation I won't have to report you.



Porcupine_I on 15 July 2011

If developers make a multiplat game for Wii U that uses the features the controller offers, it would not be much of a hassle to offer the same features for the PS3 / Vita, regardless if the PS3 owner has a Vita or not, they have done the work anyway and if it is a multiplat, then they have to do a version without the features too, for the 360, so i guess the PS3 will get the best of both worlds again. although i hardly think this is going to happen a lot.

Besides, if i own a PS3 and a Wii, and had to choose what to get to play the game with this features, a Wii U or a PS-Vita. i would know what i would get



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- George Orwell, ‘1984’

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Porcupine_I on 15 July 2011
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
No ND.

PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can, nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can.

And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4.

The again, this is what you would expect them to say about the competition.


while i agree with this "And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4."

1. "PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can" im cuirious as to why you say this since the psp was already capable of this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

2. "nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can" i'd also like to know how you know that who says the motion sensing on vita isn't better?


 1. Vita and PS3 aren't really designed for full streaming on the level of Wii U. Unless they forsaw this when they made PS3 and all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR.

Plus PSV as PS3 controller is comparable to 3DS as  a Wii U controller, which is impractical to what the Wii U pad is.

2. PSV doesn't have a standard reference point like the sensor bar for motion tracking. I doubt PSV can do something like the golf sequence in the demo shown at E3. The sensor bar on the controller can even be used for wii remotes.

" There's also a sensor bar on the new controller, so your Wii remotes could read off of that "

 PSV may have some similar functionalities to the Wii U pad but there are a number of different ways Wii U can be used that PSV is limited in.


1. "all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR."

i don't follow... it was a feature called remote play possible between any ps3 and psp shown here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I ( thats someone playing a ps3 game on psp )

2. "PSV doesn't have a standard reference point like the sensor bar for motion tracking"

i'm no expert on this technology but i wouldn't say that nintendo's method is the only way of achieving this and that there are no other ways to possibly replicate it can you? it ( the vita ) has cams, gps, an internal compass etc who says none of ithese features can achieve what you described


The Vita is incapable of providing the same level of fidelity in streaming functionality . The Wii U method of streaming is better and more efficient than what PSV offers by virtue of the hardware being built especially for it.

So people who think PS3/Vita can do what the WiiU can, they're technically in the right, I suppose, but not feasible at all. Sony will probably build PS4 to take better advantage of streaming with Vita than PS3 is capable of but even then it won't be exactly on par with Wii U. That's not what Sony will be pushing next gen anyways.

Like i said before,  PSV may have some similar functionalities to the Wii U pad but there are a number of different ways Wii U can be used that PSV is limited or lacking in.

 At the end of the day it's Wii U that will be getting the better support and that's what really matters.

 

what are you exactly basing yor assumptions on?  Sony may not even have finalised the Hardware for the Vita yet, they are possibly even looking into implementing these capabilities right as we speak.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Zlejedi on 15 July 2011
ethomaz said:
Yes. The PS3 and Vita integration could do all the things Wii U do.

The problem is the games to support it... in Wii U every game will support it... but every game will support PS3 and Vita integration? I guess not.

Yeah for example we have historical evidence of how well third party multiplatform games supported sisaxis ;)



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z101 on 15 July 2011
o_O.Q said:

I didn't know multi-touch wasn't being offered on that Wii U screen ... 

 


For a good reason: Resistive one-touch screens reacts faster and more precise than multi-touch screens and capacitive multi-touch screens don't react properly if your hands are dry.



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Linkasf on 15 July 2011
Porcupine_I said:
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
No ND.

PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can, nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can.

And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4.

The again, this is what you would expect them to say about the competition.


while i agree with this "And of course there's the price of entry for PSV and PS3/4."

1. "PSV cannot stream content from PS3/4 at the level Wii U can" im cuirious as to why you say this since the psp was already capable of this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I

2. "nor can it do motion tracking like Wii U's pad can" i'd also like to know how you know that who says the motion sensing on vita isn't better?


 1. Vita and PS3 aren't really designed for full streaming on the level of Wii U. Unless they forsaw this when they made PS3 and all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR.

Plus PSV as PS3 controller is comparable to 3DS as  a Wii U controller, which is impractical to what the Wii U pad is.

2. PSV doesn't have a standard reference point like the sensor bar for motion tracking. I doubt PSV can do something like the golf sequence in the demo shown at E3. The sensor bar on the controller can even be used for wii remotes.

" There's also a sensor bar on the new controller, so your Wii remotes could read off of that "

 PSV may have some similar functionalities to the Wii U pad but there are a number of different ways Wii U can be used that PSV is limited in.


1. "all of them have been shipped with a secret locked feature to transfer 480P video without lag, those claims are nothing more than Sony PR."

i don't follow... it was a feature called remote play possible between any ps3 and psp shown here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mASdFCTNA7I ( thats someone playing a ps3 game on psp )

2. "PSV doesn't have a standard reference point like the sensor bar for motion tracking"

i'm no expert on this technology but i wouldn't say that nintendo's method is the only way of achieving this and that there are no other ways to possibly replicate it can you? it ( the vita ) has cams, gps, an internal compass etc who says none of ithese features can achieve what you described


The Vita is incapable of providing the same level of fidelity in streaming functionality . The Wii U method of streaming is better and more efficient than what PSV offers by virtue of the hardware being built especially for it.

So people who think PS3/Vita can do what the WiiU can, they're technically in the right, I suppose, but not feasible at all. Sony will probably build PS4 to take better advantage of streaming with Vita than PS3 is capable of but even then it won't be exactly on par with Wii U. That's not what Sony will be pushing next gen anyways.

Like i said before,  PSV may have some similar functionalities to the Wii U pad but there are a number of different ways Wii U can be used that PSV is limited or lacking in.

 At the end of the day it's Wii U that will be getting the better support and that's what really matters.

 

what are you exactly basing yor assumptions on?  Sony may not even have finalised the Hardware for the Vita yet, they are possibly even looking into implementing these capabilities right as we speak.

Yes we can say this about the Wii U as well am I right? Because the Vita is going to be out in a few months from now in Japan, while the WIi U still has until next year to finalize the hardware.

And yes, I noticed that people here are talking about VAPOUR, but we don't know the exact capabilities of both hardware because they aren't even out yet =_=.



Gnac on 15 July 2011

...except play WiiU games.



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