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kowenicki said:
homer said:
Seece said:



Doesn't include Sony's final Q for their FY (coming May 25th), or Microsoft's (coming July 21st)

Is this solely hardware profits, or does this account for profits from software too?

its the division or company as a whole.. so includes the lot.

SCE v Nintendo v XBOX (now E&D)

Holy crap. Even if the wii 2 sells like the GCN, Nintendo could still survive and still be just as successful as Sony and MS.



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paulrage2 said:

And how about software numbers??


MS don't give SW figures.



 

kowenicki said:
Seece said:



Doesn't include Sony's final Q for their FY (coming May 25th), or Microsoft's (coming July 21st)

so MS E&D has made more this year so far (another quarter to come) than SCE ever has in a single year in its history....?  thats incredible..

Indeed



 

Sony are going to have their most profitable year sice 2003. It'd be kind of ironic if they profited more than Nintendo this FY. Why didn't Sony have the same currency issues that Nintendo had?



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postofficebuddy said:

Sony are going to have their most profitable year sice 2003. It'd be kind of ironic if they profited more than Nintendo this FY. Why didn't Sony have the same currency issues that Nintendo had?

I believe Nintendo made a one off consolidated loss for future currency loss, where as Sony deals with it Q by Q.

Also don't be so sure Sony will profit this Q, I made the same mistake this time last year thinking MS would surpass $1 bill for the year and they made a $120 loss for no seeable reason.



 

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Thanks Seece, I was curious to see where they were at now.

360 is going be out of the red this year it seems. Depending on how long MS supports it, its gonna pay off much of the original Xbox losses as well.



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Seece said:
kowenicki said:
Seece said:



Doesn't include Sony's final Q for their FY (coming May 25th), or Microsoft's (coming July 21st)

so MS E&D has made more this year so far (another quarter to come) than SCE ever has in a single year in its history....?  thats incredible..

Indeed

You say history does that mean the first bar is for sonys PS1 profits



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mjk45 said:
Seece said:
kowenicki said:
Seece said:



Doesn't include Sony's final Q for their FY (coming May 25th), or Microsoft's (coming July 21st)

so MS E&D has made more this year so far (another quarter to come) than SCE ever has in a single year in its history....?  thats incredible..

Indeed

You say history does that mean the first bar is for sonys PS1 profits

No but I have data all the way back to when Sony entered the gaming race, and they've never posted more than $1 billion profit in a year.



 

Seece said:
mjk45 said:
Seece said:
kowenicki said:
Seece said:



Doesn't include Sony's final Q for their FY (coming May 25th), or Microsoft's (coming July 21st)

so MS E&D has made more this year so far (another quarter to come) than SCE ever has in a single year in its history....?  thats incredible..

Indeed

You say history does that mean the first bar is for sonys PS1 profits

No but I have data all the way back to when Sony entered the gaming race, and they've never posted more than $1 billion profit in a year.


Really makes thing look impressive for Nintendo and Microsoft to accomplish such things. 



 

Wow, fantastic! Superb presentation of the numbers with those tables. Profits/loss and shipments data close and easy to compare.

Thank you Seece! I will study this in detail in the coming weekend.