Im one who doesnt care about the 3D, the short time I had with the 3DS on Pilotwings was me looking at a double image of part of the screen and the rest looked normal and 3D. That is not how I want to play my games. Probally wouldnt of got one anyway due to the realization that my current handheld is almost never used.

 Services like PSN and Wiiware have took over on the same style games I used to love playing on my handhelds so now I really dont see to much of a need.

Did you read this somewhere? would be awesome if you can give a link

First mistake: naming it 3DS. We've been through DS, DS lite, DSi, DSi XL... People think 3DS is just another DS, so they guess it's not necessary to buy it since they already own it, especially when the new one costs $250. Nintendo should've called it something different.

Second mistake: pricing it at $250, it's just too much specially when you could buy a 32GB iPod Touch for  few dollars more and buy a lot of casual games almost for free.

Third mistake: not having a Mario title at launch. Maybe a Mario Kart or something like that.

The concept of a dedicated gaming handheld is not that much attractive anymore, but that doesn't mean it cannot sell well. Just create a great music and movie/TV service for the handheld and a lot of people is going to buy the system.

I don't know these members, but by their posts would you really consider them Nintendo fans?

Most probably blaming Nintendo here for the lack of solid 3rd party games on the Wii current gen (I can't think of much other way they screwed their own customers honestly), for this, a great link I got yesterday from RolStoppable shows that what this poster didn't like about Nintendo this gen may not have been Nintendo's fault in the end.

http://pietriots.com/2010/12/17/the-3rd-party-wall-of-shame/

 A serious Nintendo fan would investigate before jumping the gun like this. And if ever he's referring to the 3DS, by God if you don't like the price, don't buy it!

"There is," Iwata points out, "no easy road to making people understand the attraction of glassless 3D images and making Nintendo 3DS widespread."

Source

Wonder if this is an issue of lost in translation or out of context in some way....

Thanks bud, I appreciate your answer.

I can very much see where you're coming from, and to answer your second point, in truth, I don't like everything Nintendo does and am very much a proponent of critical thinking. That's why I don't get discouraged talking to diverging opinions as much as some others you may have encountered in the past. I think what you guys are doing is important, I just think the way it's done is very hard to follow and relate to. I'm doing my best to understand some of the points of view some of the members are bringing to the table, but the sentiments of resentment towards Nintendo in this season lead to such sharp negativism that it's hard to get a clear picture of their concern.

Tell you what, try this as an expirement of change in your regular pattern of life (as I believe this market is of great interest to you). Try seing Nintendo as a Company, a real company, with real people who make honest and real mistakes. Then, look at them as a Company that is trying, as much as it can, to remain ther leader in a business it pioneered above and beyond any precursor they met. I company that jumps out in glory in terms of its personality and the personality of the content it produces as compared to its competitors (though they do have their beauties as well). Then, remember that the leadership at Nintendo is in change, and that Satoru Iwata as a business man is a totally different beast than was mister Yamauchi. From these thoughts, you'll understand that some of the patterns of the past, may and (in my view most probably will) melt as ice to water when the time comes. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but in the mean time, really, it's much too early to tell. Give them time. If Iwata was able to revive Nintendo, can't you trust him again, even when wielding a weapon of the past?

My regards to all, happy playing, happy posting.

Fair enough. I know where you're coming from as I was there too, but for me it was with the Gamecube (I went multi-console this gen). The thing we really need to grasp here is that it's really not Nintendo's fault. I won't argue on Nintendo's 1st-party motion control offerings, as I was happy with Metroid Prime and content with Twilight Princess. We also need to keep in mind they had both motion control and casual markets to fulfill at once, on 2 platforms. That's alot for one company to satisfy alone.

Remember that wall of shame you told me you looked at. Realize that the real issue are the 3rd parties. By the looks of it they're killing Nintendo, not even Sony nor Microsoft are doing that.

Don't you think that with true 3rd party support, you would've seen much more tight motion-control gaming on the wii? A "real" Prince of Persia with motion controls? A real Ninja Gaiden with motion-controls. A real megaman Zero, Castlevania. You name it, the possibilities don't stop.

For the last part, it might be a good idea to start the thread. I've been reading pretty much every news article on this site and I've never seen it said. Mind you I only rarely go on the other sites. From what I understand, and this might brighten your day, is that Nintendo is going for a dual strategy, both supporting wii-like casual content and next-gen tight-control "serious" content. Then again, maybe we could exchange on that in the new thread.