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Seece said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Acevil said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

More importantly I wanna hear from those who said that wii still had a chance to hit 50% market share


To be honest, it almost looked like it was going to hit that mark. Wasn't it at 49%? So I doubt those people were wrong to estimate that. 


iirc there was a thread when the wii was around 46-47% of marketshare and ps3 slim effect was going on and move/kinect hasn't even come out yet (I think). There were several who were saying wii would hit 50% or more. I personally always had a feeling it will enter the next gen first and will completely ruin those chances.

I'll try and find the thread..

The Wii/HD gap was 1.2 million ish at one point, and going in Wii's favour, so it was almost a dead cert 50% was going to happen. But then, shit happens.

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Acevil said:
Seece said:
Acevil said:

I'm kind of lazy, can you do the total between all low end, and all high end. To showcase the result. 


I edited it in

Lifetime/86 million and ...
Low end - 23 million / 109 million
Middle/likely - 30 million / 116 million
High end - 38 million / 122 million

Thanks, I saw that. So pretty much a shoe in for beating ps1. 

Yeah, unless Nintendo go crazy and did what MS did with the Xbox and discontinue it 4 months before it's successor is due out, that said Nintendo arnt losing buckets on the Wii so no reason for them to do that.

March 2012 they should be at at least 96 million (that'd mean they shipped 10 mill this FY) another 7 million over 2012/2013 isn't difficult.

I know Wii is waning bad, but people on here have such poor foresight, it isn't going to just stop selling one day soon. It'll likely still be selling (in small quantities) in 2015



 

Seece said:

PS2 didn't suffer such a harsh downfall, and Wii doesn't have the benefit of the developing world. That's the only reason PS2 keeps on selling.

Wii isn't going to be launched in those countries. It's clear Nintendo want Wii to die down now so they can concentrate on Wii 2.

Seriously though look at the figures.

Wii is at 86 mill shipped and PS2 has surpassed 150 million and STILL hasn't ever shipped in a Q, less than 1.36, what the Wii has just shipped, surely that tells you something?

To be honest, I find it embarssing you think there is even a glimmer of hope. When all is said and done PS2 will likely be above 160 million, are you really telling me with the Wii winding down, and Wii 2 on the way, the Wii can double it's userbase???????

What? Just checked and it has sold about 2.5 million in the last quarter ( jan-mar 2011 ), so WTF?

As for the glimmer of hope, why so against it? Wii just has to continue selling at a small pace more than the PS2 to eventually catch up, in a few years time. But yeah, odds are definetly against it, that's for sure, though I don't see why Nintendo would want to kill it, it sells at a profit, so every Wii sold is some money made by them.



Phoeniks.Wright said:
Seece said:
 

PS2 didn't suffer such a harsh downfall, and Wii doesn't have the benefit of the developing world. That's the only reason PS2 keeps on selling.

Wii isn't going to be launched in those countries. It's clear Nintendo want Wii to die down now so they can concentrate on Wii 2.

Seriously though look at the figures.

Wii is at 86 mill shipped and PS2 has surpassed 150 million and STILL hasn't ever shipped in a Q, less than 1.36, what the Wii has just shipped, surely that tells you something?

To be honest, I find it embarssing you think there is even a glimmer of hope. When all is said and done PS2 will likely be above 160 million, are you really telling me with the Wii winding down, and Wii 2 on the way, the Wii can double it's userbase???????

What? Just checked and it has sold about 2.5 million in the last quarter ( jan-mar 2011 ), so WTF?

As for the glimmer of hope, why so against it? Wii just has to continue selling at a small pace more than the PS2 to eventually catch up, in a few years time. But yeah, odds are definetly against it, that's for sure, though I don't see why Nintendo would want to kill it, it sells at a profit, so every Wii sold is some money made by them.

No, they Wii shipped 1.36 ... not anywhere near 2.5 mill.

Wii doesn't just need to outsell the PS2 by a small pace to beat it .. dude do the math.

Wii has to sell another 64 million units just to catch up to PS2, and PS2 is shipping at least 5 million a year currently ...

It's not gonna happen, let it go.



 

Seece said:

No, they Wii shipped 1.36 ... not anywhere near 2.5 mill.

Wii doesn't just need to outsell the PS2 by a small pace to beat it .. dude do the math.

Wii has to sell another 64 million units just to catch up to PS2, and PS2 is shipping at least 5 million a year currently ...

It's not gonna happen, let it go.

Don't know were you get your figures, but I went and checked on the vgchartz section, HW analasis, HW table, then Wii, total regions, Jan 02/2011 to Mar 26/2011, and it reads exactly 2,453,422 sales, so unless I'm doing something wrong, not sure where you got that from.

The maths? err not sure what you mean, but if the Wii sells, for example, 5 mill in a Q, and the PS2 3 mill, then every Q the Wii is catching up by 2 mill. Might take a long time, never said it wouldn't, but I'm not going to start predicting actual numbers here.

One last thing: the last line makes you sound so condescending.



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Phoeniks.Wright said:
Seece said:

No, they Wii shipped 1.36 ... not anywhere near 2.5 mill.

Wii doesn't just need to outsell the PS2 by a small pace to beat it .. dude do the math.

Wii has to sell another 64 million units just to catch up to PS2, and PS2 is shipping at least 5 million a year currently ...

It's not gonna happen, let it go.

Don't know were you get your figures, but I went and checked on the vgchartz section, HW analasis, HW table, then Wii, total regions, Jan 02/2011 to Mar 26/2011, and it reads exactly 2,453,422 sales, so unless I'm doing something wrong, not sure where you got that from.

The maths? err not sure what you mean, but if the Wii sells, for example, 5 mill in a Q, and the PS2 3 mill, then every Q the Wii is catching up by 2 mill. Might take a long time, never said it wouldn't, but I'm not going to start predicting actual numbers here.

One last thing: the last line makes you sound so condescending.


Not exactly your fault here. VGChartz just estimates numbers so they were way off this quarter since official Nintendo shipments turned out to be much lower. And this is a huge decline so the future looks hopeless at the moment.



 

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Phoeniks.Wright said:
Seece said:

No, they Wii shipped 1.36 ... not anywhere near 2.5 mill.

Wii doesn't just need to outsell the PS2 by a small pace to beat it .. dude do the math.

Wii has to sell another 64 million units just to catch up to PS2, and PS2 is shipping at least 5 million a year currently ...

It's not gonna happen, let it go.

Don't know were you get your figures, but I went and checked on the vgchartz section, HW analasis, HW table, then Wii, total regions, Jan 02/2011 to Mar 26/2011, and it reads exactly 2,453,422 sales, so unless I'm doing something wrong, not sure where you got that from.

The maths? err not sure what you mean, but if the Wii sells, for example, 5 mill in a Q, and the PS2 3 mill, then every Q the Wii is catching up by 2 mill. Might take a long time, never said it wouldn't, but I'm not going to start predicting actual numbers here.

One last thing: the last line makes you sound so condescending.

You're new here so I'll forgive you for not knowing the difference between shipped and sold.

Nintendo SHIPPED (not sold) 1.36M units this past Q (Like I said before PS2 has never shipped below 1.5 M in a q in it's lifetime)

VGChartz has it at 2.5 mill sold but that's SOLD to consumers, it's also overtracked and will be adjusted down heavily in the coming days.

On to the next part, the only time Wii will ever be shipping over 5 million units in a Q again is xmas, and it only did 8.5 mill last xmas, which each consecutive xmas it'll get lower.

Sorry to sound condescending but I hate it when fans people have all the evidence and facts needed to make a conclusion, and come up with something the complete opposite to fit what they wish were going to happen.

You obviously don't know how sales work to be fair, so maybe I'm beating a dead horse.



 

Wii wont sell more than 110M at this rate but the DS will outsell it.



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Immortal said:
Phoeniks.Wright said:
Seece said:

No, they Wii shipped 1.36 ... not anywhere near 2.5 mill.

Wii doesn't just need to outsell the PS2 by a small pace to beat it .. dude do the math.

Wii has to sell another 64 million units just to catch up to PS2, and PS2 is shipping at least 5 million a year currently ...

It's not gonna happen, let it go.

Don't know were you get your figures, but I went and checked on the vgchartz section, HW analasis, HW table, then Wii, total regions, Jan 02/2011 to Mar 26/2011, and it reads exactly 2,453,422 sales, so unless I'm doing something wrong, not sure where you got that from.

The maths? err not sure what you mean, but if the Wii sells, for example, 5 mill in a Q, and the PS2 3 mill, then every Q the Wii is catching up by 2 mill. Might take a long time, never said it wouldn't, but I'm not going to start predicting actual numbers here.

One last thing: the last line makes you sound so condescending.


Not exactly your fault here. VGChartz just estimates numbers so they were way off this quarter since official Nintendo shipments turned out to be much lower. And this is a huge decline so the future looks hopeless at the moment.

Why sheeeeit, just checked now and you're right, what an absolutely massive drop off. My bad here, guess the Wii is more f***ed than I thought it was. My excuses Seece.

But at least we learned something important here: THIS is what happens when you screw over your customers. Nasty isn't it?

 

Timing of posts sucked, but no need to forgive me Seece, it was my mistake ( forgot that stock exists there for a mment, so it is possible for Sold>shipped for a given quarter ), though if there's anything else I should know, would greatly appreciate it!



Seece said:
Acevil said:
Seece said:
Acevil said:

I'm kind of lazy, can you do the total between all low end, and all high end. To showcase the result. 


I edited it in

Lifetime/86 million and ...
Low end - 23 million / 109 million
Middle/likely - 30 million / 116 million
High end - 38 million / 122 million

Thanks, I saw that. So pretty much a shoe in for beating ps1. 

Yeah, unless Nintendo go crazy and did what MS did with the Xbox and discontinue it 4 months before it's successor is due out, that said Nintendo arnt losing buckets on the Wii so no reason for them to do that.

March 2012 they should be at at least 96 million (that'd mean they shipped 10 mill this FY) another 7 million over 2012/2013 isn't difficult.

I know Wii is waning bad, but people on here have such poor foresight, it isn't going to just stop selling one day soon. It'll likely still be selling (in small quantities) in 2015


So end what do you think for end of this year? I think 95M no more.



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