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Forums - Sales Discussion - The Official NPD March 11' Thread (Data at 6:30 PM EST for 5 wks to 4/2/11)

ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
postofficebuddy said:

Am I the only one that finds it quite impressive that PS3 is up YOY despite last March having FFXIII/GOW3/continued price cut momentum?


Shortages last March.

But still, last year it had the price cut and the the new model wave to help it, this year it had nothing like that.

Can't sell consoles if there are none in the store to be sold.

*sigh* We'll see next quarter what happens, because if there was shortages in a quarter, the following quarter will have an increase in sales if the shortages are solved, so see you in 3 months to see what happens.

I was talking about shortages in March 2010 for the PS3.

That's why I said see you in 3 months, because the PS3 is up without the slim/price cut/good games release "momentum", but you say it's because there was shortages last year, which resulted in a great Q1 2010 for Sony (April-June, not Jan-March, that's Q4 2009), now if we have an even grater Q1 2011 for Sony this year, that means that the PS3 is up even if there were shortages last year.

BTW:

"Xbox 360 console sales were up 28 percent year over year, the largest growth of any current generation console on the market."

See? 28% SO, the PS3 is anything between 313 and 402k, is it that hard to understand?

Why are you being a smartass? I didn't see that quote from MS before. And the lowest the PS3 did is 314k, not 313k.

Look who's talking -_- I'm not being a smartass I just didn't know you didn't see that percentage information. Read through the whole thread then... I should have done the same because I missed this:

Sony NPD: "PlayStation saw double digit growth across hardware and peripherals, signaling continued momentum for the PlayStation platform

That means the PS3/PSP/PS2 increases are anything between 10% and 28%. So basically the PS3 is between 345,300k - 401,800k, the PSP 131,900 - 153,500k and the PS2 130,100k - 151,400k.


That's not what that means, that means that Playstation "Family" as a whole saw double digits increase, it doesn't necessarily mean they all saw increase of at least 10%. For example, assuming your numbers are correct, the PS2 could be down or flat YOY and PS3 PSP could be up YOY by 28% each and the Playstation "Family" would still be up YOY by double digits percentage. Capisce?

Sony responds to the NPD report but doesn't issue any specific PS3 sales data.

Sony Computer Entertainment America has just released its NPD statement, responding to NPD's March report. The company noted that the overall PlayStation business saw some significant growth, but the company didn't provide any specific sales information. 

"According to the latest NPD report, PlayStation saw double digit growth across hardware and peripherals, signaling continued momentum for the PlayStation platform and consumer demand for immersive 3D and precision motion game play," said Patrick Seybold, Sr. Director of Corporate Communications at SCEA.

"Led today by the PlayStation Move motion controller, Move accessories and the deep lineup of Move-compatible software titles, PlayStation peripherals have now achieved double-digit growth for 19 consecutive months, according to NPD. People are loving the gaming experience provided by true stereoscopic 3D and PlayStation Move, and we'll up the ante next week with the release ofSOCOM 4: US Navy Seals."

 

Bolded shows that it's hardware AND peripherals that saw double digits increase. PS3 accounts for most of the sales of that playstation family, PSP had a price cut, and The Source is right, NPD said PS2 didn't increase. So the PS3 most likely saw a double digit increase and PSP likely.

Anyway double digit growth for 19 consecutive months... that means that if they sold 80,000 peripherals in that first month, now they sold  AT LEAST 490,000... that's ridiculous!



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TheSource said:

Guys in all likelihood PS3 was right around 340k - 360k for March. PS2 wasn't up - NPD said only X360, PSP (price cut) and PS3 increased over March 2011.

While I doubt it was up YoY, didn't NPD stop releasing PS2 numbers back in April 2010?  I don't think them ignoring it in the press release really means anything one way or the other.



yo_john117 said:
TheSource said:

Guys in all likelihood PS3 was right around 340k - 360k for March. PS2 wasn't up - NPD said only X360, PSP (price cut) and PS3 increased over March 2011.

How does that compare to Vgchartz numbers?

PS3 {put that work beginning with U here} 10k-30k.



4k1x3r said:

Anyway double digit growth for 19 consecutive months... that means that if they sold 80,000 peripherals in that first month, now they sold  AT LEAST 490,000... that's ridiculous!

But there are no Move 19 months ago.



ethomaz said:
yo_john117 said:
TheSource said:

Guys in all likelihood PS3 was right around 340k - 360k for March. PS2 wasn't up - NPD said only X360, PSP (price cut) and PS3 increased over March 2011.

How does that compare to Vgchartz numbers?

PS3 {put that work beginning with U here} 10k-30k.

Yea 10 or 30, which means almost spot on.



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4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
postofficebuddy said:

Am I the only one that finds it quite impressive that PS3 is up YOY despite last March having FFXIII/GOW3/continued price cut momentum?


Shortages last March.

But still, last year it had the price cut and the the new model wave to help it, this year it had nothing like that.

Can't sell consoles if there are none in the store to be sold.

*sigh* We'll see next quarter what happens, because if there was shortages in a quarter, the following quarter will have an increase in sales if the shortages are solved, so see you in 3 months to see what happens.

I was talking about shortages in March 2010 for the PS3.

That's why I said see you in 3 months, because the PS3 is up without the slim/price cut/good games release "momentum", but you say it's because there was shortages last year, which resulted in a great Q1 2010 for Sony (April-June, not Jan-March, that's Q4 2009), now if we have an even grater Q1 2011 for Sony this year, that means that the PS3 is up even if there were shortages last year.

BTW:

"Xbox 360 console sales were up 28 percent year over year, the largest growth of any current generation console on the market."

See? 28% SO, the PS3 is anything between 313 and 402k, is it that hard to understand?

Why are you being a smartass? I didn't see that quote from MS before. And the lowest the PS3 did is 314k, not 313k.

Look who's talking -_- I'm not being a smartass I just didn't know you didn't see that percentage information. Read through the whole thread then... I should have done the same because I missed this:

Sony NPD: "PlayStation saw double digit growth across hardware and peripherals, signaling continued momentum for the PlayStation platform

That means the PS3/PSP/PS2 increases are anything between 10% and 28%. So basically the PS3 is between 345,300k - 401,800k, the PSP 131,900 - 153,500k and the PS2 130,100k - 151,400k.


That's not what that means, that means that Playstation "Family" as a whole saw double digits increase, it doesn't necessarily mean they all saw increase of at least 10%. For example, assuming your numbers are correct, the PS2 could be down or flat YOY and PS3 PSP could be up YOY by 28% each and the Playstation "Family" would still be up YOY by double digits percentage. Capisce?

Sony responds to the NPD report but doesn't issue any specific PS3 sales data.

Sony Computer Entertainment America has just released its NPD statement, responding to NPD's March report. The company noted that the overall PlayStation business saw some significant growth, but the company didn't provide any specific sales information. 

"According to the latest NPD report, PlayStation saw double digit growth across hardware and peripherals, signaling continued momentum for the PlayStation platform and consumer demand for immersive 3D and precision motion game play," said Patrick Seybold, Sr. Director of Corporate Communications at SCEA.

"Led today by the PlayStation Move motion controller, Move accessories and the deep lineup of Move-compatible software titles, PlayStation peripherals have now achieved double-digit growth for 19 consecutive months, according to NPD. People are loving the gaming experience provided by true stereoscopic 3D and PlayStation Move, and we'll up the ante next week with the release ofSOCOM 4: US Navy Seals."

 

Bolded shows that it's hardware AND peripherals that saw double digits increase. PS3 accounts for most of the sales of that playstation family, PSP had a price cut, and The Source is right, NPD said PS2 didn't increase. So the PS3 most likely saw a double digit increase and PSP likely.

Anyway double digit growth for 19 consecutive months... that means that if they sold 80,000 peripherals in that first month, now they sold  AT LEAST 490,000... that's ridiculous!


Why are you quoting me to post that?



ethomaz said:

4k1x3r said:

Anyway double digit growth for 19 consecutive months... that means that if they sold 80,000 peripherals in that first month, now they sold  AT LEAST 490,000... that's ridiculous!

But there are no Move 19 months ago.


That's ALL peripherals. 



ethomaz said:

4k1x3r said:

Anyway double digit growth for 19 consecutive months... that means that if they sold 80,000 peripherals in that first month, now they sold  AT LEAST 490,000... that's ridiculous!

But there are no Move 19 months ago.

Yea you're right, but still, I calculated for 30k that first month and that's over 180k now, still the increase is huge, and maybe means that Move is doing better than we think.



ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:


That's not what that means, that means that Playstation "Family" as a whole saw double digits increase, it doesn't necessarily mean they all saw increase of at least 10%. For example, assuming your numbers are correct, the PS2 could be down or flat YOY and PS3 PSP could be up YOY by 28% each and the Playstation "Family" would still be up YOY by double digits percentage. Capisce?

Sony responds to the NPD report but doesn't issue any specific PS3 sales data.

Sony Computer Entertainment America has just released its NPD statement, responding to NPD's March report. The company noted that the overall PlayStation business saw some significant growth, but the company didn't provide any specific sales information. 

"According to the latest NPD report, PlayStation saw double digit growth across hardware and peripherals, signaling continued momentum for the PlayStation platform and consumer demand for immersive 3D and precision motion game play," said Patrick Seybold, Sr. Director of Corporate Communications at SCEA.

"Led today by the PlayStation Move motion controller, Move accessories and the deep lineup of Move-compatible software titles, PlayStation peripherals have now achieved double-digit growth for 19 consecutive months, according to NPD. People are loving the gaming experience provided by true stereoscopic 3D and PlayStation Move, and we'll up the ante next week with the release ofSOCOM 4: US Navy Seals."

 

Bolded shows that it's hardware AND peripherals that saw double digits increase. PS3 accounts for most of the sales of that playstation family, PSP had a price cut, and The Source is right, NPD said PS2 didn't increase. So the PS3 most likely saw a double digit increase and PSP likely.

Anyway double digit growth for 19 consecutive months... that means that if they sold 80,000 peripherals in that first month, now they sold  AT LEAST 490,000... that's ridiculous!


Why are you quoting me to post that?

Because you were right about the PS2 but what I posted makes it clearer to understand, concering that "playstation family" increase, that's all.



ElGranCabeza said:
ethomaz said:

4k1x3r said:

Anyway double digit growth for 19 consecutive months... that means that if they sold 80,000 peripherals in that first month, now they sold  AT LEAST 490,000... that's ridiculous!

But there are no Move 19 months ago.


That's ALL peripherals. 

And? How does it contradict what I said? I'm not saying it's move, the DS3 or anything else, I'm just pointing out that whatever the peripherals were sold, the increase is ridiculous.

And ethomaz just pointed out that there was no Move last year, so the Move helped peripherals increase.