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Forums - Sales Discussion - The Official NPD March 11' Thread (Data at 6:30 PM EST for 5 wks to 4/2/11)

4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
postofficebuddy said:

Am I the only one that finds it quite impressive that PS3 is up YOY despite last March having FFXIII/GOW3/continued price cut momentum?


Shortages last March.

But still, last year it had the price cut and the the new model wave to help it, this year it had nothing like that.

Can't sell consoles if there are none in the store to be sold.

*sigh* We'll see next quarter what happens, because if there was shortages in a quarter, the following quarter will have an increase in sales if the shortages are solved, so see you in 3 months to see what happens.

I was talking about shortages in March 2010 for the PS3.

That's why I said see you in 3 months, because the PS3 is up without the slim/price cut/good games release "momentum", but you say it's because there was shortages last year, which resulted in a great Q1 2010 for Sony (April-June, not Jan-March, that's Q4 2009), now if we have an even grater Q1 2011 for Sony this year, that means that the PS3 is up even if there were shortages last year.

BTW:

"Xbox 360 console sales were up 28 percent year over year, the largest growth of any current generation console on the market."

See? 28% SO, the PS3 is anything between 313 and 402k, is it that hard to understand?

Why are you being a smartass? I didn't see that quote from MS before. And the lowest the PS3 did is 314k, not 313k.



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Yakuzaice said:
yo_john117 said:

So how close are Vgchartz numbers compared to NPD's? Which consoles are undertracked/overtracked?

360 was spot on.
3DS was about 200k overtracked.
Wii was about 90k overtracked.
DS was 44k undertracked.
PS3/PSP/PS2 we don't know yet.

Thanks! 

When will the PS3/PSP/PS2 numbers be in?



yo_john117 said:
Yakuzaice said:
yo_john117 said:

So how close are Vgchartz numbers compared to NPD's? Which consoles are undertracked/overtracked?

360 was spot on.
3DS was about 200k overtracked.
Wii was about 90k overtracked.
DS was 44k undertracked.
PS3/PSP/PS2 we don't know yet.

Thanks! 

When will the PS3/PSP/PS2 numbers be in?

Not sure, Sony doesn't really seem to like releasing numbers, and NPD has clamped down on the analysts who did in the past.  We know the PS3/PSP are up YoY, but I doubt we'll hear anything about the PS2.



ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
postofficebuddy said:

Am I the only one that finds it quite impressive that PS3 is up YOY despite last March having FFXIII/GOW3/continued price cut momentum?


Shortages last March.

But still, last year it had the price cut and the the new model wave to help it, this year it had nothing like that.

Can't sell consoles if there are none in the store to be sold.

*sigh* We'll see next quarter what happens, because if there was shortages in a quarter, the following quarter will have an increase in sales if the shortages are solved, so see you in 3 months to see what happens.

I was talking about shortages in March 2010 for the PS3.

That's why I said see you in 3 months, because the PS3 is up without the slim/price cut/good games release "momentum", but you say it's because there was shortages last year, which resulted in a great Q1 2010 for Sony (April-June, not Jan-March, that's Q4 2009), now if we have an even grater Q1 2011 for Sony this year, that means that the PS3 is up even if there were shortages last year.

BTW:

"Xbox 360 console sales were up 28 percent year over year, the largest growth of any current generation console on the market."

See? 28% SO, the PS3 is anything between 313 and 402k, is it that hard to understand?

Why are you being a smartass? I didn't see that quote from MS before. And the lowest the PS3 did is 314k, not 313k.

Look who's talking -_- I'm not being a smartass I just didn't know you didn't see that percentage information. Read through the whole thread then... I should have done the same because I missed this:

Sony NPD: "PlayStation saw double digit growth across hardware and peripherals, signaling continued momentum for the PlayStation platform

That means the PS3/PSP/PS2 increases are anything between 10% and 28%. So basically the PS3 is between 345,300k - 401,800k, the PSP 131,900 - 153,500k and the PS2 130,100k - 151,400k.



Yakuzaice said:
yo_john117 said:
Yakuzaice said:
yo_john117 said:

So how close are Vgchartz numbers compared to NPD's? Which consoles are undertracked/overtracked?

360 was spot on.
3DS was about 200k overtracked.
Wii was about 90k overtracked.
DS was 44k undertracked.
PS3/PSP/PS2 we don't know yet.

Thanks! 

When will the PS3/PSP/PS2 numbers be in?

Not sure, Sony doesn't really seem to like releasing numbers, and NPD has clamped down on the analysts who did in the past.  We know the PS3/PSP are up YoY, but I doubt we'll hear anything about the PS2.

Damn that sucks! Hopefully Sony says something soon.



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OMG why can't Sony give there numbers faster it's really pissing me off. I want to know how much Killzone 3 and the PS3 sold.



dsage01 said:

OMG why can't Sony give there numbers faster it's really pissing me off. I want to know how much Killzone 3 and the PS3 sold.

Sony just show SHIPPEDZ numbers because only matters to them.



Guys in all likelihood PS3 was right around 340k - 360k for March. PS2 wasn't up - NPD said only X360, PSP (price cut) and PS3 increased over March 2011.



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4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
4k1x3r said:
ElGranCabeza said:
postofficebuddy said:

Am I the only one that finds it quite impressive that PS3 is up YOY despite last March having FFXIII/GOW3/continued price cut momentum?


Shortages last March.

But still, last year it had the price cut and the the new model wave to help it, this year it had nothing like that.

Can't sell consoles if there are none in the store to be sold.

*sigh* We'll see next quarter what happens, because if there was shortages in a quarter, the following quarter will have an increase in sales if the shortages are solved, so see you in 3 months to see what happens.

I was talking about shortages in March 2010 for the PS3.

That's why I said see you in 3 months, because the PS3 is up without the slim/price cut/good games release "momentum", but you say it's because there was shortages last year, which resulted in a great Q1 2010 for Sony (April-June, not Jan-March, that's Q4 2009), now if we have an even grater Q1 2011 for Sony this year, that means that the PS3 is up even if there were shortages last year.

BTW:

"Xbox 360 console sales were up 28 percent year over year, the largest growth of any current generation console on the market."

See? 28% SO, the PS3 is anything between 313 and 402k, is it that hard to understand?

Why are you being a smartass? I didn't see that quote from MS before. And the lowest the PS3 did is 314k, not 313k.

Look who's talking -_- I'm not being a smartass I just didn't know you didn't see that percentage information. Read through the whole thread then... I should have done the same because I missed this:

Sony NPD: "PlayStation saw double digit growth across hardware and peripherals, signaling continued momentum for the PlayStation platform

That means the PS3/PSP/PS2 increases are anything between 10% and 28%. So basically the PS3 is between 345,300k - 401,800k, the PSP 131,900 - 153,500k and the PS2 130,100k - 151,400k.


That's not what that means, that means that Playstation "Family" as a whole saw double digits increase, it doesn't necessarily mean they all saw increase of at least 10%. For example, assuming your numbers are correct, the PS2 could be down or flat YOY and PS3 PSP could be up YOY by 28% each and the Playstation "Family" would still be up YOY by double digits percentage. Capisce?



TheSource said:

Guys in all likelihood PS3 was right around 340k - 360k for March. PS2 wasn't up - NPD said only X360, PSP (price cut) and PS3 increased over March 2011.


Good point. PS2 is definitely flat or down YOY.