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retroking1981 on 18 February 2011
Metallicube said:

Exactly.. It's funny that some people are actually making a big deal out of this.. To put it in perspective how irrelivent this sales margin is, Wii currently has sold 34 million MORE units than its nearest competitor..

Assuming current trends continue, (being generous here) Xbox 360 MAY make up roughly 2 -3 million over the Wii by this time next year. That's over the course of an entire year! And Wii will still maintain a 31 million lead, with all consoles being a whole year older, and more gamers moving on..

And that's also assuming Wii will not make up most of the deficit during the holiday season, when they generally shine.

 

It might be irrelivant for this generation but if the momentum carries through to the next gen then nintendo could easily find themselves back in 3rd place.

Microsoft done a great job with the original xbox, it gave them a foot in the door and by releasing the 360 so early they really took a chunk of the PlayStation user base.

 

Nintendo got lucky with the Wii, it was the right product at the right time and because of that it goes against every sales trend in video game history. When has the market leader ever dropped so low compared to its competition? I can’t see Nintendo maintaining its position as market leader next gen, especially with Microsoft/Sony now having their own motion devices.

 

Also I doubt very much the 3DS will reach the heights of the DS, its higher price point and stiffer competition from NGP (hardcore) and iPhone (casuals) might find it being a jack of all trades and master of none, although I still expect it to sell well and be a success overall.

 

As for you last comment I don’t think its safe to assume the Wii will automatically be the no.1 seller this Christmas.



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darthdevidem01 on 18 February 2011
NYANKS said:
pezus said:
*Sound Of Rain said:

360 #1...Yes! I am just happy that nobody can use that statistical tie crap LOL(I don't care about PSP &DS.)

Overall, the 360 does deserve it...I don't own one but Microsoft has done an amazing job with Kinect making it the next big thing. I have played it and it is fun...I just think they should upgrade it a little bit. If it could read fingers and other things...well, it could be even bigger.

PS3 is doing good though 360 put a gap in between them this week. Japan #'s impress me.

Wii is doing fine IMO considering it is now facing Move and Kinect and has had nothing big since New Super Mario Bros. Wii and nothing new since Motion Plus. Wii should be able to hold its own until Nintendo acts with a Price Cut or the Vitality Sensor.

Technically, that phrase can still be used.

I'm pretty sure this is the most important point in the thread.  I call STATISTICAL TIE! *runs out of thread*

For 1st place or last place?

*Trollfacewithyellowteeth.jpg*



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

4k1x3r on 18 February 2011

 

Worldwide
Weeks GT4 GT5 Difference Temp GT4 TEMP GT5 Cumulative
1 2 523 055 2 306 128 -216 927 2 523 055 2 191 588 -216 927
2 1 000 378 729 245 -271 133 3 523 433 2 920 833 -488 060
3 510 176 662 611 152 435 4 033 609 3 583 444 -335 625
4 326 608 575 343 248 735 4 360 217 4 158 787 -86 890
5 231 662 524 431 292 769 4 591 879 4 683 218 205 879
6 178 044 278 737 100 693 4 769 923 4 961 955 306 572
7 137 261 145 976 8 715 4 907 184 5 107 931 315 287
8 120 989 97 152 -23 837 5 028 173 5 205 083 291 450
9 102 768 73 959 -28 809 5 130 941 5 279 042 262 641
10 92 089 60 069 -32 020 5 223 030 5 339 111 230 621
11 83 643 51 766 -31 877 5 306 673 5 390 901 198 768
12 77 354 43 770 -33 584 5 384 027 5 434 671 165 160
Total 10W: 5 384 027 5 549 187
 165 160
      

What smells bad... smells bad.

 

Japan:
Weeks GT4 GT5 Difference Temp GT4 TEMP GT5 Cumulative
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
11 8 869 3 329 -5 540 1 034 249 587 472 -446 777
12 7 354 3 254 -4 100 1 041 603 590 726 -450 877
Total 10W: 1 041 603 590 726 -450 877      

Smells still bad.

 

EMEAA:
Weeks GT4 GT5 Difference Temp GT4 TEMP GT5 Cumulative
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
11 59 963 30 123 -29 840 2 726 497 3 357 796 631 299
12 57 129 23 542 -33 587 2 783 626 3 381 338 597 712
Total 10W: 2 783 626 3 381 338 597 712      

On the bright side, it still has a huge lead, will take time to erase it.

 

Americas:
Weeks GT4 GT5 Difference Temp GT4 TEMP GT5 Cumulative
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
11 14 811 18 314 3503 1 545 927 1 560 173 14 246
12 12 871 16 974 4103 1 558 798 1 577 147 18 349
Total 10W: 1 558 798 1 577 147 18 349      

Smells good.



Beuli2 on 18 February 2011
retroking1981 said:
Metallicube said:

Exactly.. It's funny that some people are actually making a big deal out of this.. To put it in perspective how irrelivent this sales margin is, Wii currently has sold 34 million MORE units than its nearest competitor..

Assuming current trends continue, (being generous here) Xbox 360 MAY make up roughly 2 -3 million over the Wii by this time next year. That's over the course of an entire year! And Wii will still maintain a 31 million lead, with all consoles being a whole year older, and more gamers moving on..

And that's also assuming Wii will not make up most of the deficit during the holiday season, when they generally shine.

 

It might be irrelivant for this generation but if the momentum carries through to the next gen then nintendo could easily find themselves back in 3rd place.

 

Microsoft done a great job with the original xbox, it gave them a foot in the door and by releasing the 360 so early they really took a chunk of the PlayStation user base.

 

Nintendo got lucky with the Wii, it was the right product at the right time and because of that it goes against every sales trend in video game history. When has the market leader ever dropped so low compared to its competition? I can’t see Nintendo maintaining its position as market leader next gen, especially with Microsoft/Sony now having their own motion devices.

 

Also I doubt very much the 3DS will reach the heights of the DS, its higher price point and stiffer competition from NGP (hardcore) and iPhone (casuals) might find it being a jack of all trades and master of none, although I still expect it to sell well and be a success overall.

 

As for you last comment I don’t think its safe to assume the Wii will automatically be the no.1 seller this Christmas.

Yup, control gimick   casual gamers  luck is the source of the Wii power fad.



Above: still the best game of the year.

NYANKS on 18 February 2011
4k1x3r said:

 

Worldwide
Weeks GT4 GT5 Difference Temp GT4 TEMP GT5 Cumulative
1 2 523 055 2 306 128 -216 927 2 523 055 2 191 588 -216 927
2 1 000 378 729 245 -271 133 3 523 433 2 920 833 -488 060
3 510 176 662 611 152 435 4 033 609 3 583 444 -335 625
4 326 608 575 343 248 735 4 360 217 4 158 787 -86 890
5 231 662 524 431 292 769 4 591 879 4 683 218 205 879
6 178 044 278 737 100 693 4 769 923 4 961 955 306 572
7 137 261 145 976 8 715 4 907 184 5 107 931 315 287
8 120 989 97 152 -23 837 5 028 173 5 205 083 291 450
9 102 768 73 959 -28 809 5 130 941 5 279 042 262 641
10 92 089 60 093 -31 996 5 223 030 5 339 135 230 645
11 83 643 51 766 -31 877 5 306 673 5 390 901 198 768
12 77 354 43 770 -33 584 5 384 027 5 434 671 165 184
Total 10W: 5 384 027 5 549 211 165 184      

What smells bad... smells bad.

 

Japan:
Weeks GT4 GT5 Difference Temp GT4 TEMP GT5 Cumulative
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
11 8 869 3 329 -5 540 1 034 249 587 472 -446 777
12 7 354 3 254 -4 100 1 041 603 590 726 -450 877
Total 10W: 1 041 603 590 726 -450 877      

Smells still bad.

 

EMEAA:
Weeks GT4 GT5 Difference Temp GT4 TEMP GT5 Cumulative
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
11 59 963 30 123 -29 840 2 726 497 3 357 796 631 299
12 57 129 23 542 -33 587 2 783 626 3 381 338 597 712
Total 10W: 2 783 626 3 381 338 597 712      

On the bright side, it still has a huge lead, will take time to erase it.

 

Americas:
Weeks GT4 GT5 Difference Temp GT4 TEMP GT5 Cumulative
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
11 14 811 18 314 3503 1 545 927 1 560 173 14 246
12 12 871 16 974 4103 1 558 798 1 577 147 18 349
Total 10W: 1 558 798 1 577 147 18 349      

Smells good.





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Metallicube on 18 February 2011
retroking1981 said:
Metallicube said:

Exactly.. It's funny that some people are actually making a big deal out of this.. To put it in perspective how irrelivent this sales margin is, Wii currently has sold 34 million MORE units than its nearest competitor..

Assuming current trends continue, (being generous here) Xbox 360 MAY make up roughly 2 -3 million over the Wii by this time next year. That's over the course of an entire year! And Wii will still maintain a 31 million lead, with all consoles being a whole year older, and more gamers moving on..

And that's also assuming Wii will not make up most of the deficit during the holiday season, when they generally shine.

 

It might be irrelivant for this generation but if the momentum carries through to the next gen then nintendo could easily find themselves back in 3rd place.

 

Microsoft done a great job with the original xbox, it gave them a foot in the door and by releasing the 360 so early they really took a chunk of the PlayStation user base.

 

Nintendo got lucky with the Wii, it was the right product at the right time and because of that it goes against every sales trend in video game history. When has the market leader ever dropped so low compared to its competition? I can’t see Nintendo maintaining its position as market leader next gen, especially with Microsoft/Sony now having their own motion devices.

 

Also I doubt very much the 3DS will reach the heights of the DS, its higher price point and stiffer competition from NGP (hardcore) and iPhone (casuals) might find it being a jack of all trades and master of none, although I still expect it to sell well and be a success overall.

 

As for you last comment I don’t think its safe to assume the Wii will automatically be the no.1 seller this Christmas.


Stopped reading right there.



retroking1981 on 18 February 2011
Beuli2 said:
retroking1981 said:
Metallicube said:

Exactly.. It's funny that some people are actually making a big deal out of this.. To put it in perspective how irrelivent this sales margin is, Wii currently has sold 34 million MORE units than its nearest competitor..

Assuming current trends continue, (being generous here) Xbox 360 MAY make up roughly 2 -3 million over the Wii by this time next year. That's over the course of an entire year! And Wii will still maintain a 31 million lead, with all consoles being a whole year older, and more gamers moving on..

And that's also assuming Wii will not make up most of the deficit during the holiday season, when they generally shine.

 

It might be irrelivant for this generation but if the momentum carries through to the next gen then nintendo could easily find themselves back in 3rd place.

 

Microsoft done a great job with the original xbox, it gave them a foot in the door and by releasing the 360 so early they really took a chunk of the PlayStation user base.

 

Nintendo got lucky with the Wii, it was the right product at the right time and because of that it goes against every sales trend in video game history. When has the market leader ever dropped so low compared to its competition? I can’t see Nintendo maintaining its position as market leader next gen, especially with Microsoft/Sony now having their own motion devices.

 

Also I doubt very much the 3DS will reach the heights of the DS, its higher price point and stiffer competition from NGP (hardcore) and iPhone (casuals) might find it being a jack of all trades and master of none, although I still expect it to sell well and be a success overall.

 

As for you last comment I don’t think its safe to assume the Wii will automatically be the no.1 seller this Christmas.

Yup, control gimick   casual gamers  luck is the source of the Wii power fad.


Im just saying it was in the right place ay the right time.

The 3DO could have been the PS1 but came to early and the Dreamcasts online service preceded XBL but i don't see anyone playing Dreamcast2 this gen. Sometimes products come out too early for their own good.

Nintendo struck a cord with people in the Wii, good for them. Its just a shame they seem to have fumbled the ball like they did in the 90s between the snes-64 transition.



SnesTea on 18 February 2011

Well since everyone already owns a Wii, of course it's going to stagnate ;)



non-gravity on 18 February 2011
Zlejedi said:

And soon PS3 will be best selling console in 2011:

Worldwide Hardware
Console Yearly (change) Total
DS 1,351,437 (-94%) 145,315,220
PS3 1,348,183 (-91%) 47,694,039
Wii 1,334,155 (-93%) 84,993,939
X360 1,258,268 (-91%) 51,646,909
PSP 772,549 (-92%) 66,159,124
PS2 357,224 (-92%) 142,015,583
Total 6,421,816(-92%)  

Statistical tie!!!



Metallicube on 18 February 2011
retroking1981 said:
Beuli2 said:
retroking1981 said:
Metallicube said:

Exactly.. It's funny that some people are actually making a big deal out of this.. To put it in perspective how irrelivent this sales margin is, Wii currently has sold 34 million MORE units than its nearest competitor..

Assuming current trends continue, (being generous here) Xbox 360 MAY make up roughly 2 -3 million over the Wii by this time next year. That's over the course of an entire year! And Wii will still maintain a 31 million lead, with all consoles being a whole year older, and more gamers moving on..

And that's also assuming Wii will not make up most of the deficit during the holiday season, when they generally shine.

 

It might be irrelivant for this generation but if the momentum carries through to the next gen then nintendo could easily find themselves back in 3rd place.

 

Microsoft done a great job with the original xbox, it gave them a foot in the door and by releasing the 360 so early they really took a chunk of the PlayStation user base.

 

Nintendo got lucky with the Wii, it was the right product at the right time and because of that it goes against every sales trend in video game history. When has the market leader ever dropped so low compared to its competition? I can’t see Nintendo maintaining its position as market leader next gen, especially with Microsoft/Sony now having their own motion devices.

 

Also I doubt very much the 3DS will reach the heights of the DS, its higher price point and stiffer competition from NGP (hardcore) and iPhone (casuals) might find it being a jack of all trades and master of none, although I still expect it to sell well and be a success overall.

 

As for you last comment I don’t think its safe to assume the Wii will automatically be the no.1 seller this Christmas.

Yup, control gimick   casual gamers  luck is the source of the Wii power fad.


Im just saying it was in the right place ay the right time.

The 3DO could have been the PS1 but came to early and the Dreamcasts online service preceded XBL but i don't see anyone playing Dreamcast2 this gen. Sometimes products come out too early for their own good.

Nintendo struck a cord with people in the Wii, good for them. Its just a shame they seem to have fumbled the ball like they did in the 90s between the snes-64 transition.

They did not "fumble the ball." It is the natural console lifecycle.The only reason Sony and MS are not seeing identical declines is because of the slim models and Kinect extending their lives.

There is a thing called oversaturation. If you obtain super fast record amounts of sales, eventually you will fall as quick as you rose. Eventually you will reach a limit in how many people want your console. It just happens. Sony and MS will soon reach that point as well if they haven't already. It's just that the rises have been less drastic for them, so the declines will be as well. The higher you reach, the farther you have to fall, it's just that simple.

The fact that you are even comparing drop in Wii sales during February of its FIFTH year to the mistakes made between SNES and N64 transition is laughable..