It is getting annoying to read this every 5 posts in every thread I enter.

I just want to remind everyone that Bieber is Canadian!  (But it's prolly deserved pay back for ruining vampires with the US's Twilight.)

From a financial and investment perspective only - Nintendo and the WIi are doomed.  If the 3DS isn't a DS like success, Nintendo is in serious trouble.  -35% with no replacement in sight means the entire senior management team should get sacked.  The comparison is even more ridiculous in you compare 2008 and 2009.  Pachter was right that Wii HD should have been released last year.  Nintendo should have an investor riot on their hands. 

Just to clarify, since some things are being jumped to, and I don't know if someone else has addressed this.

The best way to put this is that I've been watching the statistical tie stuff lately. I know that certain... overenthused fans will take any victory they can get, but even I've said myself that yes, these numbers, given at release, are statistical ties. (To define, a statistical tie is when the difference between 2 or more items is less than the margin of error. A tie of this nature is ALWAYS possible unless there is absolutely no error.) At present, what I have been doing is watching things only. I have no reason, nor intent, on moderating people for simply stating that it's a tie or that X is ahead of Y. What has been a problem is the way that it doesn't become a civil debate about things, people bitch and moan about the other side of the coin- those calling it a tie complain about the ones declaring a winner, and vice versa. THIS is what I would propose acting on- under the currently existing rule of flaming users.

As a mod, it is not my job to solely create rules, this I know. Someone making an innocent statement with no possible intent to troll, will not see moderation. Furthermore, you may've noticed my mention of the words 'PROPOSE acting on.' I'm aware that, as is the nature of humans, that some others on the mod team may see these disputes differently, and in the case of taking action on it, I would first get it cleared with other mods and admins.

This exact process has been done before- with the excessive use of d0med and doomed to describe everything- without reasoning, this was actively trolling said doomed item. I spoke with some others, and it was deemed that it had exceeded the level of being a joke, and thus, the action taken toward it. I would be giving the disputes about another week before starting to look at the people arguing with others about the classification of it; some things do die off on their own. And if it dies off without intervention, all the better. Though, just looking at what I've seen in this thread briefly, I do think I would be getting ready to formulate how to word things for a proposal next week. But until this is approved, it is NOT set in stone, and is, at present, not enforcable, unless someone clearly goes over the top in an attack, in which case they are subject to moderation for flaming.

I dont know what everyone is talking about Wii Is nott Doomed or dead or anything! yes its down yoy but its bessides that its a statistical tie with the chance it coming out first after adjusments, & its still selling more then any other console this year, & will most likely be the top selling console this year aswell & will be the winner of this gen. 

on another note 360 is still beasting it in america 

& ps3 great numbers aswell i'm guessing it will become first after adjustments (no wars) :D 

Sadly I don't even own panties so I've never been able to bunch them up

We will see some boost in NA, that is undeniable, its a good game, however we need to see how marketing works on, anyway this won't be any closer to what Halo Reach did last setember.

The situation for PS3 in the US is quite a problem for Sony. In fact, it dosen't matter if WW they sell more PS3 than XBox, in both situation the markup with hardware salles are small, the real money is with American consumers and software.

This is true when you analyse how people spend their money with Xbox Live content: games-on-demand, add-ons, movies, series, avatar itens.. and so on.

Why is this so? Do you see non-Americans living in caves and buying consoles just to decorate the living space? In many cases software sales are larger in Europe, Japan or other regions.

Mark-up prices are also probably larger in developing regions - older consoles might sell at higher prices despite far lower manufacturing costs.

You're quite right.  In many markets outside the US the markup on consoles is actually higher rather than lower.  In the US competitive drivers keep prices lower, with many deals from the largest retailers such as Walmart.  In a lot of emerging markets consoles are aimed at the minority who have money and will pay more.

I do agree with his point that the US is a key market for videogames and Sony is in some trouble there, but his view on markups is incorrect for many regions.

The US is important as a key single market and as a global influence on gaming trends, but it's perfectly possible to make as much money outside the US as it is in the US it just requires more localization and a broader presence in many territories.