Awesome post, unfortunately most of the haters just will never Liston. 

Perhaps it would, but surely the potential profit from making the game outweighs any possible issues?

Just like COD on Wii-it may only (I say only lightly) sell 1-1.5million, but the amount it cost to make it means they'll make a profit, so it's worth it

I don't see why you have to be a hater to just say some of the newer ideas, the newer worlds, aren't as good.

Burnt out? No. Not yet. But dwindling? Lacking the same quality? Yes, it is. You can't judge them separately when there's such great pedigree behind the series...

Deadly serious. i have no interest in MGS4. no comment.

like i've said on other threads prior to this, the man in charge of Square's production team 1 is Kitase, hes came to the series with aspirations of becoming a film director from previously graduating in cinematography. because of his background FF13 is focused on telling the story purely through cinematic cutscenes. 6 hours to be precise.

FF13 spent so long in development because of the the Crystal Tools game engine, which is designed primarily for cutscenes and for seamless transitions into cutscenes. a problem which SE have remedied by scrapping Crystal Tools and creating Luminous to create games that focus on gameplay not cutscenes. Crystal Tools, i believe will be scrapped.

my problem is that in FF13, you watch a cutscene, you run foward into an enemy. you fight the enemy. you then run in a straight line to face that same enemy 9 or 10 times before you reach the end of the straight line and are "rewarded" with a cutscene. after you watch the cutscene, you repeat the whole thing for about 60 hours.

as an RPG its an abomination. and its a disgrace to the name on the cover. like i mentioned before. if Sakaguchi had not left Sqaure, i think we would have got something similar to The Last Story, where he shows he truly understands developing games.

PS. it dosent help that the characters (excluding Sahz) are each a hormonal mess, with very poor dialogue and equally poor script writing. making FF13 very unlikeable and unbelieveable compared to games like Dragon Quest 8 or FF12. this game was so bad i feel asleep during Lake Bresha. the sales of FF13-2 will show a lot of people how poor this is.

Jim actually mentioned a common element of always pushing graphics, which increases the cost and development time, which we have seen with both XIII and VsXIII. Keep that up and even the sales of the series won't be profitable.

Well, I find it extremly hurmous that you (or anyone else for that matter) think this way, but to each his own. I essentially disagree with everything you've said.

I love Sakaguchi but the internet is starting to give me jaded feelings. Vastly overrated is coming to mind more than ever.

Well, i doubt you'll find it humourous that FF13-2 is being made in response to the 'opinions' of FF13. they're going to make changes that make it a very different game, so what you find humourous is also ironic because FF13-2 is not going to be anything like FF13. so you'll probabily going to hate it.

so it seems the developers dont agree with fans who liked FF13, and are now listening to the widespread criticisims of FF13 to save the FNC. they even had to change FF13 in Agito into Type-0 so the disdain of FF13 would be assiocated with Type-0 as little as possible.

i find that very humourous.

i also find it humourous that i'm not buying FF13-2 and i doubt many of those 6mil who bought FF13 are either.

have fun playing as the hormonal tweenage girl exchanging sexual inuendo with the new Seymore of the series and going through a menopause every cutscene. lets hope they make the dungeons nice and straight so you can run as quickly as possible to the next hormonal breakdown, and lets hope the story is abysmal and has as many cliches as possible - because we didnt have enough of that last time, lol. 

and sorry, but i dont accept that Sakaguchi wouldve have ever allowed the series to turn into this pre-teen trash.

I wouldn't say it's burnt out but I'm giving up on the main series, I'll give versus a chance and any handheld games but I'm done with the main series I don't think their next final fantasies are going to sell as much, so many people were holding out hope and gave FF13 a chance, and I suspect thats where alot of the sales came from, and atleast half of them were disappointed

Jeez, is this thread still going on? Someone just post sales figures for the main FF titles and be done with it. There may be debate as to whether the series has gone stale or not, but it has definitely not burnt out. Not until a main FF sells under 500k can it be more resolutely declared "Burnt out".

@A203D,

Sadly, people like the whole emo-drama crap. It actually started with FF8 when Sakaguchi was still there, but granted, he wasn't directly involved with the project. Unfortunately, the emo-drama stuff is here to stay, and is the one thing that's really pushing me away from FF games in general. I don't mind faulty combat (so long as it's still at least kind of fun, like FF13) or weak stories/characters, just keep all this soap-opera style drama away. FF games can still be an enjoyable experience to me, even when flawed, so long as the pre-teen emo-angsty-soap opera drama is no where in sight.

You didn't read the OP, as it's not about sales.