It wasn't a great debate. It wasn't even a debate. You were claiming it was illegal under copyright with no understanding of how copyright works or why it wasn't illegal under copyright laws.

Actually, what I'm sure they're banking on is finding pirated games on his hard drive.

If they can prove he does pirate games then wouldn't it be logical to assume he's making the PS3 hack to pirate games?

I still think they don't really have anything and the judge clearly doesn't understand the case, but they can always hope.

Geohotz hasn't done anything illegal, whether or not people use his work for piracy (Though if a certain bill in Canada gets passed it will be illegal here... hint hint... write your PMs to not let bill C-32 pass).  The only thing that's possibly illegal is that he published a key that may be protected under copyrite law.  But there's a problem with that, the key might not be copyrited since it's supposed to be random and their coders screwed up and made that random number return 4.  The only way Sony will win this trial is if that key is copy protected and if it is Geohotz will loose and he shouldn't have released the keys but the way to get it.

lol, your heart's in the right place but you have a few things mixed up.

The key isn't a random number (well, it's a specific number of random digits).  They were able to find that key because they used the same random number over and over again.  The other part you missed is that the random number is not 4 like the XKCD comic you're thinking makes it out to be, it's a very very large HEX number.

The random number generator returns 4 (If what my co-worker told me and read is true), that random number is used to generate that long hex string.  The thing is that hex string is supposed to be different everytime its generated, but it's not because their random generator returns the same number always.  How that got overlooked is beyond me, I mean you had to have not tested that more than once to not see it return the same string over and over again.

edit: watched the video of the hack, they stubbed that 4 in there, my friend must have gotten confused.

lol, you're co-worker is just wrong.  He saw this xkcd comic that fail0verflow used in their presentation:

Just think about it for a second.  If their secret random number that opened up the entire PS3, do you think it would take people that long to figure out it was 4?

Yeah I edited my post above.  I concede to you this time Twestern.  But my point stands, this entire mess is if Sony copyrited the key or not.  Geohotz can be very screwed if those keys are copyrited or if there's some kind of law that protects those keys (Not to sure), but if they're not he's done nothing illegal.  So go someone find out if those keys are protected some how.

really! thats how you want to end this?

you have no class at all

if not a debate then we had nothing to talk about in the first place, and wht you said means notthing and furthermore why did you quote me. you should've left me alone and quoted someone else to talk about nothing with.

i got into the conversation to learn something (been stuck in finance to long), but you sir have tought me nothing, and don't bother

now this is informative. thanks, but its still not right to break security systems, but theres no debate or argument here. we'd just be repeatting an argument i already had in this thread with Rath.

and since its not illegal in Canada i support your cause.

I wasn't talking about nothing. I was pointing out that at no point was what he did breaking copyright. You kept avoiding this simple point.