best post ever.

You think they're the same people?    You do realize that hackers don't actual gain ANY benefits from the hacking they do right?  Outside being able to apply the same hacks to their products?

This hack by the way... doesn't even allow piracy. 

"breaking into anything is wrong".  I thought you were a democrat?   Your strange Neo-conservative view here is weird.

Should it be illegal to break into your own house?  Afterall that's what he was breaking into... his own PS3.

If someone gave everybody the keys to break into their own house... should it be illegal?

By far my favourite since I joined the site!

liberal independent. gun rights and all. S&W 500's for all. carry them openly, but check for the crazy people

no i don't think they are the same people but they could be. in my eyes its the same thing. if Sony wanted the PS3 to be brokend into they would have knocked on the hackers front door and gave them the tools them selves.

i know hackers don't gain anything(and thats wht puzzles me as to why they do it.(i'd still like to learn the trade of hacking though its genious) but others can and thats the part that im not ok with.

the hack maynot allow piracy, but it can be modified to do so.

wasn't somebody arrested for that last yr? it was in the news!

no see, this is where are wrong.  when you buy a ps3 you by the hardware NOT the software.  if geohotz wants to  bedazzled his ps3 -- go right ahead.  but you, i, or geohot do not own the software on the ps3, that's not part of the deal.

i own a copy of windows -- what i don't own is the right to modify and redistribute the code because i don't own it.  if i wanted to do that i'd have to pony up the 8 or whatever BILLION dollars it would cost to buy those rights.

true story -- i made a copy of your house key.  it's only a copy so it's not stealing and thus completely legal.  being the the freedom fighter i am i distributed that key to everyone in your neighboorhood.  how was i suppose to know that the guy who has been sent to jail 3 times already would use that key to break into your house, steal your shit, and rape your wife.  i mean, as i handed out the keys i told him not do that so i am of course completely blameless.

really, when you think about it this hole thing is your fault.  you should have known i was going to try and make copies of your household protection mechanisms.  you really should have had a more secure house.  i hope you learned your lesson.

Liberal Independent... but against a basic consumer rights case?

Uh..... what?  I mean, maybe your just not fully informed on the importance of this case to users rights... or something?

i mean, your even for carrying guns... despite the fact that it's not.

I mean you do know there are many legal reasons to hack a piece of hardware right?  I'm just having a hard time here, because your opinion is completely inconsistant with the rest of your stances.  It's like those Libretarians who want everything to be legal except gay marriage.

Also, yes, somebody was arrested for that last year... or it might of been the year before. 

it really begs the question does anybody know wht copyright infringement is or means?

and if they did we would still be having this conversation.

i know everybody here knows wht it means but when it comes to hacking some people throw laws out the window.

no see, this is where are wrong.  when you buy a ps3 you by the hardware NOT the software.  if geohotz wants to  bedazzled his ps3 -- go right ahead.  but you, i, or geohot do not own the software on the ps3, that's not part of the deal.

i own a copy of windows -- what i don't own is the right to modify and redistribute the code because i don't own it.  if i wanted to do that i'd have to pony up the 8 or whatever BILLION dollars it would cost to buy those rights.

If you'd read the article, you would know that it's an order of impoundment, which means that his equipment was taken away, like impounding a car or something. I didn't have enough room to type out Order of Impoundment in the header.