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LordTheNightKnight said:
Killiana1a said:

Kind of defeats the purpose of going from the DS to the 3DS.


Um, the increased processing power, analog stick, widescreen, and new games can still be enough, especially the latter.


PSP with a touchscreen?

Xperia Play phone, minus the 2nd analog stick? O_o

 

While I agree with you that the 3DS is too expensive, I doubt they will release a non-3D version.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Immortal said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Immortal said:

That would really be a post-Genesis-Sega-esque move.

The market will be completely confused and thrown away if Nintendo makes a non-3D 3DS. It would also really reduce 3DS, in the eyes of a spectator, to a pathetic failure considering it had to have its main gimmick removed, which would tear Nintendo's reputation to shreds after the DS and Wii.

Of course, it is possible, but so is Nintendo taking over the world using 3DS's hypnotic rays.


Thank you for finally offering a reason that makes sense.

I wouldn't have so much of a problem if this caused only a minor increase in price. But to charge more over the DS than the DS cost over the GBA is wrong. Not even the Wii cost this much on its own (required a bundle).

Well, we all remember the last console that was deemed to expensive compared to its predecessors at $250, :D.

To be honest, the price does seem a bit unjustly high, but I have a feeling that it's not just the 3D, but the higher specs, better online, motion sensing, pedometer and everything else that goes along with it.

And, I hope, at the very least, that it's gonna be worth it.


Again, the Wii was bundled, so it was not that much on its own. Furthermore, even with the bundle it was 50$ more in launch price difference, not 100$ more.

Well, being bundled with the one of the greatest games of all time adds infinite value, so we'll just disregard that for the moment, but the Wii did not have all those new gimmicks that the 3DS has, even without the 3D.



 

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Euphoria14 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Killiana1a said:

Kind of defeats the purpose of going from the DS to the 3DS.


Um, the increased processing power, analog stick, widescreen, and new games can still be enough, especially the latter.


PSP with a touchscreen?

Xperia Play phone, minus the 2nd analog stick? O_o

 

While I agree with you that the 3DS is too expensive, I doubt they will release a non-3D version.


All I'm arguing is that it's possible, and it would be one solution if they need to make the price more reasonable.

But I do predict a price cut soon, revision or no, as Nintendo stated it was the E3 response that made them think the price would be worth it, and E3 is not the best indicator of the mainstream.

Can we all at least agree that a price cut is likely if the sales are hurt but the current price?

Immortal said:

Well, being bundled with the one of the greatest games of all time adds infinite value, so we'll just disregard that for the moment, but the Wii did not have all those new gimmicks that the 3DS has, even without the 3D.



Games matter more than gimmicks. I'm not discussing the tech justifying the price. My point is that the tech won't matter, and will likely hurt the system more unless the games are good enough.



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LordTheNightKnight said:


All I'm arguing is that it's possible, and it would be one solution if they need to make the price more reasonable.

But I do predict a price cut soon, revision or no, as Nintendo stated it was the E3 response that made them think the price would be worth it, and E3 is not the best indicator of the mainstream.

Can we all at least agree that a price cut is likely if the sales are hurt but the current price?


Well, yeah. If I fall off the roof, I'll go to the hospital.  Or did you mean to suggest that the mainstream will deem the price too high?



 

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LordTheNightKnight said:
Euphoria14 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Killiana1a said:

Kind of defeats the purpose of going from the DS to the 3DS.


Um, the increased processing power, analog stick, widescreen, and new games can still be enough, especially the latter.


PSP with a touchscreen?

Xperia Play phone, minus the 2nd analog stick? O_o

 

While I agree with you that the 3DS is too expensive, I doubt they will release a non-3D version.


All I'm arguing is that it's possible, and it would be one solution if they need to make the price more reasonable.

But I do predict a price cut soon, revision or no, as Nintendo stated it was the E3 response that made them think the price would be worth it, and E3 is not the best indicator of the mainstream.

Can we all at least agree that a price cut is likely if the sales are hurt but the current price?

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Nintendo flat out say that they are charging so much for the 3DS because they realized too late that they could have charged more for the the DS?

I am sure they could make the thing cheaper, only they choose not to because they want more money.

Remember, Nintendo never sells at a loss.



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Euphoria14 said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Nintendo flat out say that they are charging so much for the 3DS because they realized too late that they could have charged more for the the DS?

I am sure they could make the thing cheaper, only they choose not to because they want more money.

Remember, Nintendo never sells at a loss.


There's a difference between selling at a profit and selling above the mainstream sweet spot. Nintendo couldn't have sold the DS at a higher price anyway, because the true systems sellers weren't out yet.

"Or did you mean to suggest that the mainstream will deem the price too high?"

Yes, that is what I mean.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Euphoria14 said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Nintendo flat out say that they are charging so much for the 3DS because they realized too late that they could have charged more for the the DS?

I am sure they could make the thing cheaper, only they choose not to because they want more money.

Remember, Nintendo never sells at a loss.


There's a difference between selling at a profit and selling above the mainstream sweet spot. Nintendo couldn't have sold the DS at a higher price anyway, because the true systems sellers weren't out yet.

"Or did you mean to suggest that the mainstream will deem the price too high?"

Yes, that is what I mean.


I believe they will deem it too high.

People are in shock that preorders are sold out, but everything tends to do well right out of the gate. We will see if it holds up. I hope it doesn't because price will drop sooner rather than later.



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i'm not so sure that a 3D-less 3DS is ever released but it is an interesting OP.

i'm really curious to see how the 3DS sells over the long term.  i personally love 3D but everything i've seen is the mainstream is loseing/has lost interest in 3D for the most part, at least as far as movies go.  if true, i wonder who will be excited about the 3DS. 



BTW, I started another thread to discuss any price drop of the 3DS in general terms. This was about one specific way it could be done. A mod can lock this thread now.



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Because the 3D can already be turned off, a 3D--less 3DS is irrelevant.

As a cost reduction factor, there are many componenets that can reduce in cost over the lifetime of the console.  The 3D screen is just 1 of many.

More to the point, Nintendo doesn't seem to be pricing the 3DS as a direct relation to the cost of the system so their market strategy on price (not worying about being as cheap as possible) isn't a big factor at all.  

And because they have no intention of removing the DSi from the market, it will serve as the lower priced market unit just as the GBA did for the DS for several years.



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