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famousringo said:
BMaker11 said:
Soriku said:

Back to that old collecting dust myth?

It's funny because so many different people have said the *exact* same thing. It can't be a total myth...

You really need to sharpen your critical thinking skills. I suggest you start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

Throwing out Wii Sports and Resort, the Wii still has twice as many titles in the top ten sellers list for 2010 as any other platform, and more overall software sales.

What magical mind-controlling pixie dust does Nintendo have that nobody else can sell software to these people? It must be magical mind-controlling pixie dust, because it sure as hell isn't the publishers' fault that nobody wants to buy their Wii games.

What kind of cognitive dissonance does it take for these guys to say that nobody can sell software on the Wii when the largest game publisher in the world is making a killing selling software on the Wii exclusively? Nintendo, serving just two platforms, sells 50% more games than EA (number two publisher) serving five platforms.

But that's not because EA is incompetent. No, it's because whenever people see a Nintendo logo, money starts falling out of their wallets. EA can't compete with Nintendo, because Nintendo has already employed every hypnotist on the planet, and there are no more hypnotists left for EA to hire to convince people to buy their games. Poor EA is stuck selling games to people who aren't enthralled by the Wii's blue hypnosis beam.

Sorry, I was feeling pretty surly a few minutes ago. A good rant is just what I needed. Carry on.


I know about fallicious arguments...I took a course in rhetoric. This case is VERY different than that. If I were to say the sun is purple, and everyone else said it was purple, THEN it would be argumentum ad populum. This is because completely untrue, and provably so, yet it's made out to be true because a lot of people say so.

The situation with the Wii "collecting dust" is not argumentum ad populum has no one has ever stated that "because my Wii collects dust, that must mean everyone's Wii collects dust". It's merely an anecdote that many people have shared, especially because it's a personal experience, not something that affects everyone else. 

My PS2 is literally on a shelf collecting dust because that's where it's at, and I don't play it anymore. That's how it is for me. Is that a fallacy, somehow then? You may not want to believe it, but that's how it is for me, and with many other people's PS2. Same with the Wii. Therefore "collecting dust" is NOT a myth, and the statement is NOT argumentum ad populum because I and many other share this same particular sentiment.

You just got so up in arms because you believe that everyone in fact DOES play their Wii and NO Wii collects dust. THAT'S a fallicious argument, because just because everyone on here gets tired of people saying "collecting dust" to try and seem, I don't know, unbiased, that must mean everyone in the world with a Wii must play it all the time. 

I think my critical thinking skills are as sharp as a needle, thank you very much



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Metallicube said:
BMaker11 said:
Soriku said:

Back to that old collecting dust myth?

It's funny because so many different people have said the *exact* same thing. It can't be a total myth...

And the "many people" you refer to are all on gaming message boards, which means they are 99% hardcore gamers, and this is a group that generally doesn't get along with the Wii. But this demographic is a small representation of the total people who play games. There are just the only ones you ever hear from since they are the only ones who frequent gaming message boards. There are probably plenty of people out there who play the Wii every day but don't exactly frequent message boards.

This skewed representation can also be seen in the reception of games lke Carnival games, Wii Fit, and Wii Sports. These are all games that have sold phenomenaly well, yet if you read the reviews and the general consencous among gaming journalists and message boards online, you would think these games were miserable games that bombed hard.

So...it's still not a "myth" because it does happen for many people. That's all I was trying to say. 

Unless you're saying that these 99% hardcore gamers that generally don't get along with the Wii...actually play it?

I never said that people who own Wii's don't play it. That's just retarded. I was simply replying to the statement that "collecting dust" was a "myth"...yet many people have said that that's the case for them. Are these people lying? As long as one person in the world, out of the 70M owners, has his "Wii on a shelf collecting dust", then it's a true statement...cause that's what that person has done with his/her personal property. And that's what others have stated. Sure, it's an overused phrase....doesn't mean it doesn't happen though.



BMaker11 said:
famousringo said:
BMaker11 said:
Soriku said:

Back to that old collecting dust myth?

It's funny because so many different people have said the *exact* same thing. It can't be a total myth...

You really need to sharpen your critical thinking skills. I suggest you start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

Throwing out Wii Sports and Resort, the Wii still has twice as many titles in the top ten sellers list for 2010 as any other platform, and more overall software sales.

What magical mind-controlling pixie dust does Nintendo have that nobody else can sell software to these people? It must be magical mind-controlling pixie dust, because it sure as hell isn't the publishers' fault that nobody wants to buy their Wii games.

What kind of cognitive dissonance does it take for these guys to say that nobody can sell software on the Wii when the largest game publisher in the world is making a killing selling software on the Wii exclusively? Nintendo, serving just two platforms, sells 50% more games than EA (number two publisher) serving five platforms.

But that's not because EA is incompetent. No, it's because whenever people see a Nintendo logo, money starts falling out of their wallets. EA can't compete with Nintendo, because Nintendo has already employed every hypnotist on the planet, and there are no more hypnotists left for EA to hire to convince people to buy their games. Poor EA is stuck selling games to people who aren't enthralled by the Wii's blue hypnosis beam.

Sorry, I was feeling pretty surly a few minutes ago. A good rant is just what I needed. Carry on.


I know about fallicious arguments...I took a course in rhetoric. This case is VERY different than that. If I were to say the sun is purple, and everyone else said it was purple, THEN it would be argumentum ad populum. This is because completely untrue, and provably so, yet it's made out to be true because a lot of people say so.

The situation with the Wii "collecting dust" is not argumentum ad populum has no one has ever stated that "because my Wii collects dust, that must mean everyone's Wii collects dust". It's merely an anecdote that many people have shared, especially because it's a personal experience, not something that affects everyone else. 

My PS2 is literally on a shelf collecting dust because that's where it's at, and I don't play it anymore. That's how it is for me. Is that a fallacy, somehow then? You may not want to believe it, but that's how it is for me, and with many other people's PS2. Same with the Wii. Therefore "collecting dust" is NOT a myth, and the statement is NOT argumentum ad populum because I and many other share this same particular sentiment.

You just got so up in arms because you believe that everyone in fact DOES play their Wii and NO Wii collects dust. THAT'S a fallicious argument, because just because everyone on here gets tired of people saying "collecting dust" to try and seem, I don't know, unbiased, that must mean everyone in the world with a Wii must play it all the time. 

I think my critical thinking skills are as sharp as a needle, thank you very much


You must be getting rusty. You were doing pretty good until you deployed the strawman.

Yeah, okay. If your position is that somewhere in the world there are Wiis that aren't being used, that's perfectly defensible. It's also completely unremarkable and applies to every other gadget on the market. My mistake for taking your comment to suggest that disuse is a major problem for the Wii, just because some people say so, and in the face of evidence that it's still selling more software than any other console on the market.

I'll spare you my PS3 anecdotes.



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

Nintendo console owners a lazy asses. They can't be bother to even dusting their shit.



Mr Khan said:

We need to build a new Wii Bingo card


Yeah, the old one is kind of out of date.



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I find it interesting that everybody talks about how the Wii in particular collects dust. What, you think that everybody who got a 360 in 2005 still plays it? That the folks who got the PS3 as a cheap Blueray player by every new release? That the latest 3rd party DS release was a flop because not everybody whose bought the system since 2004 bought it?

Wiis collect dust. So does every other system. The only reason the PS3 and 360 escape this sort of criticism is that the first only reached an acceptable pricepoint three years after launch and the second only just escaped the spectre of hardware failures.





Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

Nothing they said was wrong. I agree with everything Ready at Dawn have said.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

Well I have to wipe down all three of my consoles on occasion cause they all collect dust.  Lol...just trying to make a joke.  I think I failed hard!!



axumblade said:
Shadowfest3 said:

Well I have to wipe down all three of my consoles on occasion cause they all collect dust.  Lol...just trying to make a joke.  I think I failed hard!!

If this were facebook, I would have liked your comment. :[

Lol...thanks :).