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Beuli2 on 20 August 2010
Seece said:

pot on, the interesting thing is, wii was in a similer position ISH this time last year. But like you said it doesn't have a price cut or NSMB.

But most importantly, it's no longer got any hype behind it. People are more excited for PS3/Move and 360/Kinect.

Brett has already said he estimates Kinect to be big.

Also, the X360 has now outsold the Wii EIGHT weeks in a row. And it aint gonna stop anytime soon.


Excitement? From Kinect I would understand, but for Move? Seriosly?



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Nintendogamer on 20 August 2010
kopstudent89 said:
superchunk said:
kowenicki said:
superchunk said:
kowenicki said:

Is it possible the Wii could have its worst full year ever... its only 800k above 2007 now!

YTD for Wii

2007 - 7,935,313  (plus extra 8,452,628 to end of year)

2008 - 11,384,682

2009 - 8,945,173  (plus extra 12,563,892 to end of year)

2010 - 8,727,181 

This week in 2007 the Wii sold 285k.... this week the Wii sold 155k...  

From 19th August to September 29th 2007 the Wii sold 1,419,710.  Can the Wii expect to get anywhere near that in the coming weeks?  i'd say around 1,000,000 is more likely, so 2010 will then be very close to 2007.

Is it possible and have sales fallen off a cliff?    Or will the holiday numbers save its bacon?

Talk about it.


All you need to do is look at 2009 to see how the rest of year will play out.

you think it will sell 12.5m more this year... nah...its a different world... i can feel it.

While it may not hit 12.5, it will be far above 2007's 9m.

I'd expect about 11-12m for rest of year.

Wii is having a typical sales curve and is slowly trailing off now that it has peaked.

360s curve is the same and it too has been slowly trailing off each year and this year won't be any exception as it will sell about the same as last year if not a little less.

PS3 is the only one who has a good chance of having one last year of YOY increases and this is due to its higher starting point in prices which took longer for it to take off.

Really nothing surprising and not threads like this are trying to insinuate.


11-12 m for rest of the year? hell no. It's even selling worse than last year in the americas, and if recent numbers are anything to go by, Wii sales are even trailing to last year's. Unless Wii has a pricecut and/or surprise holidays game, it will be down by alot

 I Predict about 4 - 5M for the rest of the year with no games to push HW.



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kopstudent89 on 20 August 2010
Beuli2 said:
Seece said:

pot on, the interesting thing is, wii was in a similer position ISH this time last year. But like you said it doesn't have a price cut or NSMB.

But most importantly, it's no longer got any hype behind it. People are more excited for PS3/Move and 360/Kinect.

Brett has already said he estimates Kinect to be big.

Also, the X360 has now outsold the Wii EIGHT weeks in a row. And it aint gonna stop anytime soon.


Excitement? From Kinect I would understand, but for Move? Seriosly?


Very true. The move looks like it will flop, like i've mentioned before, bad 'move' by Sony's part... see what i did there :D



Seece on 20 August 2010
Beuli2 said:
Seece said:

pot on, the interesting thing is, wii was in a similer position ISH this time last year. But like you said it doesn't have a price cut or NSMB.

But most importantly, it's no longer got any hype behind it. People are more excited for PS3/Move and 360/Kinect.

Brett has already said he estimates Kinect to be big.

Also, the X360 has now outsold the Wii EIGHT weeks in a row. And it aint gonna stop anytime soon.


Excitement? From Kinect I would understand, but for Move? Seriosly?

I don't wanna piss anyone off.



 

Carl on 20 August 2010
Mr Khan said:

And the price-cut did have relatively little impact, compared to normal sales growth over the period after it came out, as i recall.

Nintendo's got a lot stacked up (and is getting a bit of help from other sources). No one game will top NSMBWii (except possibly Wii Vitality. I have a very good feeling about that one), but effects will stack together. Donkey Kong, Mickey, NBA Jam, and Wii Party this year will run together with Vitality Sensor and Zelda next year to make sure that Wii's last year (as i've called a holiday 2011 successor to arrive right on schedule, right around the same time Xbox 3 lands), into a strong one.

Doesn't matter if you want to believe it or not. The pricecut helped out a lot on the December weeks along with NSMB.

Wii Vitality? Where is it? If it was gonna be used for a big holiday push I think we would have seen it by now.

DK, I've argued enough about that the past couple week. It could be a hit or miss. Mickey we have no idea. NBA Jam has never really been big... And Wii Party while being a huge SW seller, i doubt will be a huge HW mover. The Wii is stacked full of party games, including Nintendo's own Mario Party. It hasn't helped propel Wii sales in Japan neither.



                            

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superchunk on 20 August 2010
kowenicki said:
 

Unfortunately you are incorrect.  "The 360 curve is the same"?? Go check.. it isnt.  360: 2008 11m, 2009 10.6m this year 11m plus... the 360 has been VERY consistent, with marginal changes over the last 3 years.

How you can say the recent Wii fall off this year isnt surprising is beyond me.... the fall off is dramatic... like I said its tracking at about 60% of 2007 sales.

Here is history and my estimate. I think this is not only highly probably but fits my description exactly.

 

JAN-AUG 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
X360    2,947,603      2,826,295      4,097,550      4,279,386      5,233,468
Wii                   -        7,649,704    11,384,682      8,331,405      7,819,594
PS3                   -        3,062,571      4,969,406      3,987,579      5,805,761
AUG-DEC 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
X360    2,808,860      5,052,050      6,911,103      5,952,830      6,500,000
Wii    2,932,010      8,738,237    13,008,999    13,471,479    12,000,000
PS3    1,232,194      4,559,320      4,750,059      8,601,436      8,000,000
TOTAL 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
X360    5,756,463      7,878,345    11,008,653    10,232,216    11,733,468
Wii    2,932,010    16,387,941    24,393,681    21,802,884    19,819,594
PS3    1,232,194      7,621,891      9,719,465    12,589,015    13,805,761

*** EDIT: This is assuming no price cuts for systems before holidays, otherwise you could add 1m to each system easy.



zgamer5 on 20 August 2010
kopstudent89 said:
Beuli2 said:
Seece said:

pot on, the interesting thing is, wii was in a similer position ISH this time last year. But like you said it doesn't have a price cut or NSMB.

But most importantly, it's no longer got any hype behind it. People are more excited for PS3/Move and 360/Kinect.

Brett has already said he estimates Kinect to be big.

Also, the X360 has now outsold the Wii EIGHT weeks in a row. And it aint gonna stop anytime soon.


Excitement? From Kinect I would understand, but for Move? Seriosly?


Very true. The move looks like it will flop, like i've mentioned before, bad 'move' by Sony's part... see what i did there :D

its also a bad move by ms's part. if move flop, i wonder how much kinect will do. move supports core games, people wont buy it for sports champions or all of the casual games, but they will for lbp2, socom 4, sly cooper collection, kz3. 

ms are putting to much on kinect, if it flops 360 will be third this holiday(it depends weather the slim effect wears off or not), while if move flops ps3 should track under wii. 

also if kinect has a huge success then wii would be affected and not sony, so no matter what the motions controls do sony isnt having a bad holiday season.

i see 360 and wii battling out for 1st place, and the loser being 3rd.



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Mr Khan on 20 August 2010

But we can't know how significant it was compared to purely software-driven sales in that term. I would still say it was present, but negligible, given that it would be next-to-impossible without extensive retroactive consumer polling to figure out why they bought a Wii in holidays 2009.

 

Jam might surprise in that regard, simply because there hasn't been a comparable product on Wii yet, and the way Disney is positioning Epic Mickey, to rebuild probably the first or second most recognizable character on the planet with this title, guarantees its going to be pushed hard, which could push hardware somewhat (though overlap with existing Wii owners is going to be significant)

 

Vitality i'll agree may not land this holiday season, but there i was speaking more for Nintendo's strategy between now and the successor.



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kopstudent89 on 20 August 2010
zgamer5 said:
kopstudent89 said:
Beuli2 said:
Seece said:

pot on, the interesting thing is, wii was in a similer position ISH this time last year. But like you said it doesn't have a price cut or NSMB.

But most importantly, it's no longer got any hype behind it. People are more excited for PS3/Move and 360/Kinect.

Brett has already said he estimates Kinect to be big.

Also, the X360 has now outsold the Wii EIGHT weeks in a row. And it aint gonna stop anytime soon.


Excitement? From Kinect I would understand, but for Move? Seriosly?


Very true. The move looks like it will flop, like i've mentioned before, bad 'move' by Sony's part... see what i did there :D

its also a bad move by ms's part. if move flop, i wonder how much kinect will do. move supports core games, people wont buy it for sports champions or all of the casual games, but they will for lbp2, socom 4, sly cooper collection, kz3. 

ms are putting to much on kinect, if it flops 360 will be third this holiday(it depends weather the slim effect wears off or not), while if move flops ps3 should track under wii. 

also if kinect has a huge success then wii would be affected and not sony, so no matter what the motions controls do sony isnt having a bad holiday season.

i see 360 and wii battling out for 1st place, and the loser being 3rd.


no you're right, if kinect wins wii will be affected. i can see that happening definitely. What we need to see is what happens with Kinect in the long term, especially in december where i think it will be key in deciding how kinect affects 360. I really do expect it to be big, but not maybe as big as Wii fit was in 2008. I may be wrong though we'll see



oldschoolfool on 20 August 2010

It doesn't really matter. No matter how you spin it,it's still going to be number one this gen.