Xxain said:
Akvod said:
Xxain said:
Akvod said:
Xxain said:
Akvod said:
Xxain said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Akvod said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_standard
The term double standard, coined in 1912,[1] refers to any set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another, typically without a good reason for having said difference.[2] A double standard may take the form of an instance in which certain applications (often of a word or phrase) are perceived as acceptable to be used by one group of people, but are considered unacceptable—taboo—when used by another group.
Hence why KylieDog was bringing the point that we all humans.
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Well yeah it's a double standard, but there's a good reason for it with centuries of linguistic baggage.
And white people don't really have anything to gain by using the word. It's like women saying "hey why can't I piss in a urinal?!??" The answer is "you don't have a penis." This is the same issue (even though some women do it anyway). There's just no reason to argue it because there's nothing to win.
Honestly, the word is much better off now than it was 50 or 100 years ago. Now you can actually say "nigger" in a book without it getting banned. You just can't pull a Michael Richards and repeatedly scream it into a microphone at a group of blacks. I mean, it's perfectly legal, but not too smart.
It's like... Marty McFly can call himself chicken, but I fucking DARE you to call him a chicken. There's no reason to call him a chicken unless you WANT what's going to happen afterwards.
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Thank you Rubang! are views are basically the same your just doing a better job at putting it togheter
its the unspoken law just leave it alone.
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No. It's a illogical taboo that imposes a double standard that only further defines a division between people of different skin color.
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yep... cant argue with that, just like religion, and gender, and, sexauality and whatnot.
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? I'm assuming you're still harping on that we're different? Nobody, me or KylieDog, is arguing that we are all the same, or equal in respect to our existence and physical properties. I seriously can't believe you thought we were literally saying that, when we said "equal"
I am advocating, and I'm sure KylieDog is advocating as well, the philosophy of egalitarianism. A philosophy that has been adopted in Europe after centuries of aristocracy and servitude, and founded the United States of America. Have both been consistent and practiced what they preached? No, not at all. That is why we've held onto this ideal, strived for it, and came this far. We have become a beacon and ideal for other nations in the world to follow.
People like you only stain our accomplishments, and tarnish our roles as that beacon. In the same league as those who advocate torture, try to establish a Christian theocracy, or deny homosexuals their dignities as human beings. You guys fucking embarass me, and will be the ones to bring the West backwards.
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talk about harping.. and robotic and automatic action. You see I dont ever believe we will ever to a point where all froms of seperation and segragation will cease to exist. We are having this conversation about one of the many double standards that exist in world... Is it right? of course not none of them are....would i be good if all form sof the word vanished altogheter? absolutely but will it ever happen... I highly doubt.
i have more of a realist approach why you have the dreamers view
My view is not for this knowledge its more of the acceptance thats its there..and will be forever. So why challenge it When the world constantly shows it doesnt wanna change?
as for your last paragraph:
I dont beliebe in torture, its mans decision
I believe in God, But I dont believe in " Oraganized religion" so that kills that theory
as for homosexuals, I have never stripped them of anything only added to there cause
take a chill pill
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What in the world are you talking about?
I don't expect the word to dissapear, or segregation and seperation to cease to exist. What does that have to do with anything I just said? Again, you're making extremely vague and irrelevant statements.
A cynic is the same to a conspiracy theorist in one regard. Both deny/believe in something without reason. A realist will acknowledge that while the goal may never be ultimately achieved, it is worth to strive for it, and to get as close to it as tangible and productive results are actually obtained doing so.
In addition, are you actually acknowledging that we do have a double standard over the usage of the word 'nigger'? Because you were disagreeing momments ago.
And the world HAS changed. You're like a spoiled brat, who doesn't appreciate what we've gotten. Our lives are so much better than it was even a hundred years ago. To be able to communicate with you, right now, is amazing. Look how long it took Marco Polo to go on his journey. How mythical Alexander the Great became from traveling from Macedonia to India. How many hours scribes put into writing and copying books, and how any schmuck can write a blog now.
And you really need to learn how to read. I said "... in the same league as..."
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from this statemene you have been misreading my point this entire thread. I have never ever condoned the double standard around the the word " Nigga" just accepted that it exist... my accepting of its existence does not mean I am condoning the double standard around it or the general use of the word in general.
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So, why in god's name were you focusing on how we aren't equal humans? See, it's not that I'm not misreading you, you're not being clear enough. Again, you keep saying things in a vague way, when I actually spell out what I mean.
For the whole thread you have been arguing how we humans are not equal due to difference in sex, skin color, economic conditions, etc. This seems very out of place and RANDOM if you were not obviously arguing against the claim that there is a double standard in respect to the word 'nigger'. Unless you just felt like, saying random thing *shrug*
Then you started to transition and talk about how we can't change the world, and that the double standard will always exist. Especially with the start of this huge quote pyramid. It looks like you've just been convinced by Rubang and tried to adopt his arguments.
So I asked you, are you now admitting that there is a double standard.
And so now your final point is that you just accept the double standard exists... alright? I believe the double standard exists to. However, if something like a double standard over one word seems something impossible to get rid of, considering certain people as sub humans and enslaving them must have been REALLY impossible to get rid of.
