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DirtyP2002 said:
Buzzi said:

Why 25% of Xbox 360 owners should buy Kinect? Is there a game (or more) which will move 9 million people to spend 150$? Wii Motion Plus without Wii Sports Resort probably wouldn't have sold 20m by now, and that is a bit over 25% of Wii owners. Plus we all know many Xbox sales are because of RRoD problems, so probably moving 5 million units to already existing customers would be already enough with the line up Kinect looks to have (party games, sports games, fitness games, few racing games).



There are 15 games az launch. Niot one game will sell hardware, a library of games will.

And the bolded part is just trolling.

 


After I wrote that I thought someone would take it as trolling :)

I just wanted to point out that the effective Xbox number is under 40m.

Anyway, that library of 15 games will sell 9m Kinects? I would agree if they covered all genres, like Microsoft said last year. Really, they only cover the casual genres, plus some of them are extremely similar to some wii games. I can't see them selling Kinects, maybe the opposite happens though: people will buy Kinect because is something new and so they'll buy software with it, no matter the type of game.



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DirtyP2002 said:
Buzzi said:

Why 25% of Xbox 360 owners should buy Kinect? Is there a game (or more) which will move 9 million people to spend 150$? Wii Motion Plus without Wii Sports Resort probably wouldn't have sold 20m by now, and that is a bit over 25% of Wii owners. Plus we all know many Xbox sales are because of RRoD problems, so probably moving 5 million units to already existing customers would be already enough with the line up Kinect looks to have (party games, sports games, fitness games, few racing games).



There are 15 games az launch. Niot one game will sell hardware, a library of games will.

And the bolded part is just trolling.

 

It's more of if current 360 owners, if they wanted casual, then they probably have a Wii and if they don't then I think they fit in with the majority of 360 owners.  I'm with Buzzi, I just don't see that many current owners to go out and purchase Kinect until they get something that fits with what sells ass loads on the 360.  And I haven't seen that yet. 

If I had the money, I would have a 360 right now, and I would have the handful of games that i want for the system.  But when Kinect is released, i wouldnt be buying it until they show me a game that I want.  There might be more people that agree with me.  I'm sure at least 1 person shares my opinion.

And I honestly don't think he is trolling.  In my opinion, it's true.  The original 360 had a very high failure rate and many people have purchased multiple consoles.  That rate has dropped over the years with new models but I'm sure the extra purchases still continued as well.  However, we will never know how many exactly.  If it's a few hundred, thousand or millions upon millions.  The same thing goes for the PS3 and YLOD.  Hell I just had the YLOD finally happen to me last month (60GB first day purchase) and if I had the money I would have bought a PS3 slim but I don't, so I fixed it myself and got my fan running at full blast 100% of the time.

I've been drinking a bit and I don't want to ramble on too long.  So all I can say is that I don't see Kinect pushing that many current owners.  I can see it a bit more for Move but thats just because they are going to have it ready for some current games and even sequels to existing games.  None of that really matters to me.  I'm only going to purchase Move for MLB11: The Show, and if Kinect shows me a great baseball game that I can do the same with, I'll probably have to go for that too (but far after I get a 360 and catch up on the great games that I'm missing out on, that I wish were coming to PC).



Buzzi said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Buzzi said:

Why 25% of Xbox 360 owners should buy Kinect? Is there a game (or more) which will move 9 million people to spend 150$? Wii Motion Plus without Wii Sports Resort probably wouldn't have sold 20m by now, and that is a bit over 25% of Wii owners. Plus we all know many Xbox sales are because of RRoD problems, so probably moving 5 million units to already existing customers would be already enough with the line up Kinect looks to have (party games, sports games, fitness games, few racing games).



There are 15 games az launch. Niot one game will sell hardware, a library of games will.

And the bolded part is just trolling.

 


After I wrote that I thought someone would take it as trolling :)

I just wanted to point out that the effective Xbox number is under 40m.

Anyway, that library of 15 games will sell 9m Kinects? I would agree if they covered all genres, like Microsoft said last year. Really, they only cover the casual genres, plus some of them are extremely similar to some wii games. I can't see them selling Kinects, maybe the opposite happens though: people will buy Kinect because is something new and so they'll buy software with it, no matter the type of game.


The balance board supports only a handful of games and look what happened.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

Okay...here goes:

 

The problem with Kinect isn't that won't have enough games or it's too expensive. It's that it's an add-on just like the Sega CD and the Sega 32X. Those didn't do very well. Why am I comparing Microsoft to Sega? Because they are doing the same exact thing Sega did 15 years ago. Instead of releasing a new system, they are releasing an add-on. So whose to say they won't keep doing this to prolong the life of the 360? I'm not saying this will happen, I'm just saying it as a possibility. Something to think about.



I'll be getting Kinect, and I have a Wii, with a balance board.



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Judging from that pitiful excuse for a launch lineup, I seriously doubt it.



DirtyP2002 said:
Buzzi said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Buzzi said:

Why 25% of Xbox 360 owners should buy Kinect? Is there a game (or more) which will move 9 million people to spend 150$? Wii Motion Plus without Wii Sports Resort probably wouldn't have sold 20m by now, and that is a bit over 25% of Wii owners. Plus we all know many Xbox sales are because of RRoD problems, so probably moving 5 million units to already existing customers would be already enough with the line up Kinect looks to have (party games, sports games, fitness games, few racing games).



There are 15 games az launch. Niot one game will sell hardware, a library of games will.

And the bolded part is just trolling.

 


After I wrote that I thought someone would take it as trolling :)

I just wanted to point out that the effective Xbox number is under 40m.

Anyway, that library of 15 games will sell 9m Kinects? I would agree if they covered all genres, like Microsoft said last year. Really, they only cover the casual genres, plus some of them are extremely similar to some wii games. I can't see them selling Kinects, maybe the opposite happens though: people will buy Kinect because is something new and so they'll buy software with it, no matter the type of game.


The balance board supports only a handful of games and look what happened.


Because there's Wii Fit! If Kinect has something like Wii Fit (as disruptive I mean) it will sell a lot and push systems. With 15 already seen type games, it can sell just well. It'll depend on many factors, but software sells hardware, not the opposite.



CURRENTLY PLAYING: Xenoblade (Wii), Super mario 3D land (3DS), Guild Wars (PC)

 

DirtyP2002 said:
Buzzi said:

Why 25% of Xbox 360 owners should buy Kinect? Is there a game (or more) which will move 9 million people to spend 150$? Wii Motion Plus without Wii Sports Resort probably wouldn't have sold 20m by now, and that is a bit over 25% of Wii owners. Plus we all know many Xbox sales are because of RRoD problems, so probably moving 5 million units to already existing customers would be already enough with the line up Kinect looks to have (party games, sports games, fitness games, few racing games).



There are 15 games az launch. Niot one game will sell hardware, a library of games will.

And the bolded part is just trolling.

 


Yeah, we know how people are Supermegaspecialawesomepluscombo excited about Kinect launch games...



Above: still the best game of the year.

you know what i smell fear in this thread,people in here seem to know for sure that kinect will not move this or that  amount of units,and also that the 360 rise in sales are from only people upgrading wow,REALLY?and what proof do they have?zilch nada.i want these people to be very cautious as maybe they just might be wrong with what they spew as facts and expect everyone to go along with it.i will wait and see and i for one am getting kinect.

the dance game and the fitness game are 2 that i will buy day one,and who on here really think kinect will not support core games at least in so meaningful way are just blinded,biased or just out of touch.of course it will have some shovelware,don,t they all?have a blessed and wonderful day yah hearrrrrr. 



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Microsoft advertising in the US, Canada, UK and Europe will help Kinect sales and also move 360 Slim console systems.

I have no idea about Japan market, I would not hold my breath. Japan customers stick to their Japanese brand systems. Foreign owned systems have struggled over their in Japan.